Agreed i dont see no point in foldables nowadays unless improve the durability and the camera quality and also u get less battery capacity 5000mah vs 4400mah a significant difference and not to mention my little brother has the z fold 5 and recently the other screen the large one just recently got a big line this is why i only see the flip as a good option but also not very great but hey the s23 ultra has amazing battery life i get 12 hours of battery life 6 and hours of screen on time and 6 hours of screen off time

Go for the s23 ultra excellent phone man my little brother got the z fold 5 both are excellent phones depends on what u want more battery life a better screen or a bigger form factor with multitasking this is why i went with the s23 ultra foldables are exciting dont get me wrong but there are still concerns about durability and the camera is not as good as other phones