Title should say “Irony in US logic”.
How could apartheid be an overreaction to that? How could anything short of the complete extinction of Gaza and all living there be anything but an underreaction?
What the actual fuck dude. Seriously. Please go and seek help.
Clearly you have no clue of what has been going on the past 100 years over there and your sources of information are clearly propaganda as your statements are false.
If Jews had, en masse, instituted a pogrom of Germans then the camps would have been justified.
You claim there is a justifiable reason to have concentration camps. Because of people like you, concentration camps have been able to exist. Have you ever been to one? I have, to several including Auschwitz. I believe you are a danger to society, I hope you will never hold any position of power.
You support and justify crimes against humanity so there is no reason for me to continue this conversation any longer.
How could apartheid be an overreaction to that?
Apartheid has been going on for years and years now. Just like the rest of the oppression and locking people in a closed off ghetto. Its not a reaction to Oct7. Oct7 is a reaction to apartheid (which was a terrorist act which I condemn).
But besides that, you argue that racism, stripping people of their human rights and identity for an entire group of people is fine when a small group of terrorists commit a terrorist attack?
Crimes against humanity are never fine. No matter what happened. When a few commit a terrorist act, or do whatever horrible thing possible, that still shouldn’t justify to become a monster yourself in general, but especially not to thousands of innocent civilians.
The reasoning of “yeah but look what they did” was the reason nazi Germany justified deporting jews to Auschwitz. It’s the reason why the US invaded and completely wrecked Afghanistan. It’s the reason Russia invaded Ukraine and defends it’s war crimes. It’s the reason for the ethnic cleansing by Israel and why they refuse to cease fire.
Never justify horrible acts like war crimes and crimes against humanity by saying “but look what they did” because crimes against humanity and war crimes do not have an asterisk or ammendment saying “except when-”.
You’re calling the opposition of an extreme nationalistic state nazis.
But post October 7, it’s hard to argue they’re overreacting to it.
Apartheid isn’t overreacting? Enclosing millions in a ghetto, limiting their food, water and electricity is not against human rights? Constantly stealing land is just fine? Stripping people of their rights is just? Torture is good for the right cause? Financing a terrorist organisation like Hamas to continue crimes against humanity isn’t wrong?
Except for the concentration camps, they do everything exactly as nazi Germany did. Putting everyone in ghettos, stripping them of their rights, denying them in shops and public places, steal everything from them, torturing them, falsely imprison them without cause or trial, etc. But instead of concentration camps they bomb schools, hospitals, aid workers, refugee camps. They cut them off from drinking water, food transports, electricity. When you find Israel just in their crimes against humanity, during and/or before the war, you’re no better then Hitler himself.
Please note I’m not pro Hamas. They are terrorists. But they are a product of the years and years of oppression, apartheid and humanitarian crisis created by the Israeli state.
There is no right or wrong here. There is only wrong and millions of innocent civilians (on both sides but mostly on the Palistinian side).
Yeah I completely agree. But there’s a difference between silencing your opposition by banning their opinion and banning certain harmful words. I believe we shouldn’t silence them because we do not agree, we just need to fight their idiology and propaganda, and them whenever they endanger anyone else.
We shouldn’t ban anyone from speaking out their opinion, we should disapprove their opinion and argue they are wrong.
Israel is a nationalistic state. They take away the rights of any Palestinian living in their stolen lands. More then 70% of the Jewish inhabitants of Israel oppose their government but the government tries to continue conflict to maintain power under the wartime government law. That is undermining democracy.
I’m not a nazi, I’m a anachrist fighting right wing extremism. I do not try to undermine democracy, I try to uphold it.
I don’t think you understand what a nazi is. It stands for national socialist, you know, like Hitler. A socialist society for only your own ethnicity and to getting rid of anyone else. Like Israel does right now.
Israel is a right wing extremist state, the last state where apartheid exists, a state annexing land out of greed, a state murdering people from another ethnicity on a mass scale (we call this genocide), committing war crimes and crimes against humanity like torture and bombing schools, hospitals, humanitarian aid and refugee camps. They do not fight nazis, they are the nazis.
And please note it’s the Israeli state which talks and acts like a nazi. Not Jewish people in general, not every Israeli inhabitant. Just the state and anyone who supports the state.
I do? I never said that. I do not approve of nazis, I fight against them. But somehow you keep saying I approve of them and keep calling me a nazi. So you’re just a troll. Well, you got me to respond so that’s a win for you I guess.
I never aid I tolerate them. I’m fighting hard against fake news, propaganda and their protests. Just because I fight them, doesn’t mean I believe they have less rights to their opinion or less rights to live. I just don’t agree with them and I want to fight them. I don’t want to be the same as them by putting them beneath me, taking away their rights. They have a right to their opinion, they have a right to protest and they have a right to get a beating whenever they protest against LGBTQ+, other ethnicities, or what so ever or when spreading Russian and other right wing propaganda. We can’t just silence, imprison and kill people we don’t agree with, that’s what nazis do.
We can show them they are wrong, we can fight them, we can show others what’s behind their mask, we can convict them of their crimes when they make them.
Freedom of speech doesn’t have an amendment saying “only if you agree with me”.
I never said I approve of those groups, yet you say I did. So your conclusion is based on something I never said.
Hahaha ooooh snap! You got me xD
No, you’re wrong.
For instance. But are you going in the direction of “how about you then”? Because I do not approve of nazis, but imo everyone should have the right of their opinion an no one should be silenced or eliminated. I prefer them not to have any power, but that is my preference yet I still believe they should have as much right to be elected as I am. I just hoped people would be less dumb and recognize fake news and propaganda when voting. But yeah, people have a right to be dumb and fuck up the world and no one should be stripped of those rights.
Touche!
If it talks and acts like a nazi, I call them a nazi. I do not call anyone opposing me a nazi no matter their political opinion. For example, Trump and Musk call leftists nazis. That makes no sense. Israel calls anyone opposing their right wing extremism, apartheid, annexing and genocide a nazi. It’s like Hitler calling the allies nazis.
I’m not calling anyone a nazi, I label people who are actual nazis based on their opinion and acts.
Another bluff. Also, we can just call it “special military operations”.
Also, NATO includes Canada. Not just the US and European countries, like the article says.
In sports, yeah. In politics it’s different: “Damn he was bad, I’d love to crush him again to steal as much voters as possible.”
So, let me explain how nazies work. The nazies don’t want to be seen as nazies, so they claim their opponents are nazies. Putin does this, Israel, Trump, Musk, right wing politicians all over Europe, etc. They are all fascists or national socialists yet they claim they are fighting nazies or are a victim of nazies.
It’s like a plumber who keeps screaming an electrician is a plumber, and to prove his point he’s going to break into the electrician’s house to fix his plumbing while murdering his family.
How many positions on free speech does the kama sutra actually have? Just wondering.
Well if that’s true, there’s no reason to keep the second amendment. But right now it feels a lot like America screams “no! We want the most of us to starve! We want school shootings, it’s a part of our culture! We don’t want to give up slavery, we are responsible slave owners! I want to decide what women are allowed to do with their body, I know better then them!” (yes, the US still has slaves. They ended slavery, with the exception of incarceration. There are prisons where people are forced to work without pay).
“academic paper”. The world in Idiocracy comes sooner then expected. Go to Harvard to publish an academic paper on ancient aliens in UFOs. What an achievement. Could have stayed in mom’s basement and made a YouTube video instead.