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  • This has been a great discussion here… let me add a few things from my perspective of 30-odd years in the IT space;

    • I like to use stuff that’s fit for purpose. Windows 10, Windows 11 and such are desktop operating systems that are fit for their purpose and are very good at it. But they’re less optimal for server-type workloads. Microsoft themselves provide a different operating system for that purpose but it has a different cost model that is a lot higher.
    • Access to the GUI is necessary to run Windows. NAS devices and such have the ability to run “headless”; that is no keyboard, monitor or mouse. NAS devices also have a “network first” mentality where everything must be accessible on the network even in the event of a system failure. Recovery cannot require a monitor if you can’t plug one in! Windows (even server) requires physical access.
    • Server-focused platforms like NAS provide a lot of capabilities that Windows does not because of the nature of their platforms. For example Synology allows growing your storage easily while Windows requires a lot more technical knowledge to accomplish that.
    • Going back to fit-for-purpose; NAS devices provide security that isn’t necessarily there with Windows. Windows has a lot of “moving parts”… in addition to the operating system there are a bunch of ancillary libraries, tools and software that may or may not be used when using Windows as a server. All of these additional tools and libraries provide another potential vector for security breaches especially if not individually maintained thus increasing the maintenance requirements of the system. NAS devices give you the basics of what they need to operate and no more… well that’s until you start adding service packages to a Synology. But even then they will all be managed through the stock package manager and thus updated and maintained, and will still only be as much as you need to get the job done.

    As far as my most recent experience with desktop Windows that I find irritating, there are a couple of reasons I still wouldn’t use it as a server platform ;

    • Microsoft has a tendency to randomly update your settings, overriding your own settings with what they think are better. A good example that hit me recently is that some recent update overrode my power management settings on a PC I have set up as a headless desktop I then connect to using NX. I had it set to never sleep… suddenly it started sleeping. I had to reset it in order to get back to where I wanted it. This is not the first time this has happened, and I’ve had other issues along these lines. 24x7 isn’t possible when your PC goes to sleep…
    • Windows lacks a really solid local filesystem. NTFS is OK and is pretty performant but it lacks a lot of the more advanced features of filesystems from NAS vendors or *NIX systems; ZFS and others have checksumming and scrubbing, most NAS vendors allow scheduled data integrity checks and the like… things like that.
    • Software RAID in Windows is acceptable, but is not great. It’s hard to understand when things aren’t working properly and thus plan to replace failed hardware.

    Hope that helps :)


  • Personally I DO self-host… and I have very few problems. I get blacklisted occasionally but it’s not been a huge concern and is usually only the low-priority blacklists… I did have to go through jumping through hoops early on to get my IP accepted but I haven’t had problems in years.

    For my mail server these days I use Docker Mailserver. It’s really complete as a server (no frontend though) for setting up a really good IMAP/SMTP server. I have a full docker swarm cluster running here that keeps it VERY reliable. For a frontend on my desktop I use Evolution or Thunderbird (I’m a Linux user).

    For a web frontend I have a few I have played with. My current “primary driver” is Snappymail acting as a plugin to my NextCloud instance. However I’ve had good experiences using E-Groupware which is VERY feature complete as an Outlook alternative.

    Hope that helps!