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Cake day: July 23rd, 2020

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  • So, I’d like to preface this by saying I myself am vegetarian, and I respect anyone’s choice to be vegan, or to be neither vegan nor vegetarian.

    With that out of the way, I do have to disagree with the idea that harvesting animal products such as eggs and milk is inherently exploitive and that it can be a mutually beneficial relationship for both humans and livestock animals.

    We must understand that in no way are livestock animals such as cattle, pigs, sheep, chickens, etc. a product of natural selection. The modern versions of these animals are the descendants of thousands of years of guided evolution by humanity. These animals cannot be returned to the wild, for they have not been wild animals in tens of thousands of years.

    I bring this up to first illustrate that these animals’ very existence is intertwined with ours. With this in mind, I’d like to conjecture that livestock animals have far better lives than most wild animals. They have access to guaranteed food, modern medicine, shelter, and protection from predation by other species. In return for these things, we receive products such as eggs, milk, wool, and more.

    Secondly, many of these animals produce extra products as a result of the genetic manipulation. Cows make more milk than they need to nurse their young, hens produce eggs even when they are not making chicks, sheep grow wool to the point it needs to be removed to prevent complications.

    I don’t disagree that farming these animals on the scale we do today leads to a lot of unneeded suffering on their part, and tons of animal product getting dumped simply because it would be unprofitable to sell it. I’d like to think that in the process of scaling back production of these products, we can offer all of our livestock animals much more humane living conditions. The US doesn’t need to produce 23.5 billion gallons of milk a year, especially considering how many cannot even consume dairy products.

    Again, I respect anyone’s dietary choices for whatever reasons they may have, and I do think there is much productive discourse to be had in regards to how we approach our livestock friends.



  • Not sure what OP is talking about, doesn’t sound like the K-12 education system.

    But as for your question, there are 12 “grades” in the US public education system, plus kindergarten, which comes before first grade.

    The first five grades are generally called “elementary school,” which has its own seperate building. Most kids begin around age 4-5 in kindergarten.

    Then, grades 6-8 are called either “middle school” or “junior high,” these are usually kids from age 11-14, and the building is generally seperate but can also be connected to the next set of grades.

    Finally, grades 9-12 are called “high school” or more formally, “secondary education.” Grade 9 are “freshmen,” grade 10 are “sophomores,” grade 11 are “juniors,” and grade 12 are “seniors.” These kids range from 14-18.

    Each grade is a little less than a year long, from late summer of one year to spring of the next, with a 2-3 month summer vacation.

    I think that’s all? I mean, you also have pre-school, which is an optional class that you can send your kid to before they start kindergarten.