I’m not defending the design or placement, just pointing out it’s there and that the driver should know what’s in their car.
And IMO, it’s on them to inform passengers.
As I’ve said with others here multiple times, I think the larger issue you’re touching on is valid, but also not exclusively a Tesla issue. Every manufacturer has a different way of invoking an emergency manual door release in recent cars, EV and ICE. Maybe that should be standardized across the board?
I agree, but considering every manufacturer decides to redesign emergency open mechanisms for their own products I feel like the bigger issue here is a lack of standardization. This is not uniquely a Tesla problem.
Some cars require you to pull the handle twice.
Some require you to do it with force.
Others have a secondary mechanism.
They’re all different.
Not going to defend the design or their way of doing things. All I pointed out in my previous comment to that effect was that the safety mechanism does exist, and ultimately it is on the driver to understand the safety features present in their vehicle.
Omg that’s so dumb. I don’t have one so wasn’t aware there were some models without. How tf is that legal
Yeah not going to defend the design just wanted to be clear it’s there and works. It’s not hard to see or feel around for but yes you need to know where it is and how to use it before it’s beneficial. Though to be fair that’s true of any feature or car.
I once had a VW that had a special way of opening the regular door latch in order to engage the emergency latch, if you didn’t know how to do it, it wouldn’t work and wouldn’t be helpful. Some make you pull the handle twice.
Maybe a larger problem is this stuff isn’t very standardized to look/work the same across all models so everyone reinvents critically important safety features.
I did not mean to suggest the victims in the article did not know what they were doing, just that you should probably get familiar with your vehicle’s safety features before driving it regularly. Of course that’s contingent on them being there and functional.
It’s possible they tried and it didn’t work apologies if it seems like I was trying to suggest that it’s their fault, I was speaking more to car owners in general than the subjects of the article.
No that’s absolutely something valid to bring up the exterior door handles are dumb.
If you actually want to know where they are, there’s one above the window controls on the front side doors, where your hand naturally rests. You just pull it up like a regular door handle.
Backseats pull a tab in the storage area of their doors. It’s behind a little patch of fabric.
I’m guessing they either didn’t know, or in their panic didn’t think about it which is totally understandable. I just don’t think that’s as much on Tesla as the article seems to portray.
As I said in my last comment, the emergency releases are absolutely covered in Tesla’s official guides and user manuals, many YouTubers have covered this, and the front door lever is in a very easy location to find (above the window buttons, where your hand naturally rests on the door). Funny the article only mentions the rear door releases.
At some point it becomes less the manufacturer’s fault and more on the owner for not understanding the safety features in the vehicle they’re driving around.
Tesla does some stupid shit, but they still have to comply with safety regulations. I’d rather see them get bad publicity for the actual stupid shit they do, like rely 100% on regular old cameras for self-driving instead of Lidar/radar sensors or put the turn signal buttons on the steering wheel. That’s straight up unsafe and dumb.
They do. Each front door a manual lever and each rear door has a manual release pull tab.
A dumber idea would be driving around a car without knowing how it works. The article doesn’t even mention them until the last paragraph, and poorly.
The emergency releases are covered in the manual as well as official tutorial videos and countless YouTube how-tos. The front door lever is exactly where you think it is. You have to literally do zero research about the car you’re buying to not know about them.
EDIT: not sure why this touched a nerve. Every recent car model has their own way of invoking an emergency manual door release, EV or ICE. This is a new car problem, not just a Tesla problem. Simply pointing out the fact that it’s there.
If the justice system worked his conviction here would be cause enough to be ineligible for office (as well as each of his 34 felony convictions).
Since this happened prior to this term it also cannot be claimed an official act.
Theoretically something could be done about this before he’s sworn in, but I doubt it.
America, we’re really about to give a felon the keys to the kingdom even though the constitution forbids it because nobody in a position of power here cares to go through the trouble. Hope you’re happy.
TBH I would love to vote for a regular working class citizen and would gladly contribute to the local candidate that has values I agree with.
Can only imagine there are others willing to pitch in.
Certainly easier to convince them than career politicians at the national level
To be fair, Florida almost passed it with 57%. The only reason it didn’t pass was because Florida requires a 60% majority to pass a measure.
This is statistically in line with every other state that passed a similar measure.
It sucks it didn’t happen, but that is still an incredible display of progress in Florida.
Exactly. What did it accomplish? Jack shit.
The way to affect change in elections apparently is to unite the larger population around a single person/cause/issue. We just need to find ours and convince enough people.
Personally, I just want a country where we actually let people different than us live and prosper. Why the fuck is that such a hard thing to have???
I have family and friends that are POC, gay, trans, and/or physically/mentally disabled. Why should they have to put up with policies and leaders that vilify them for simply being who they are?
Why do we accept normalized medical debt?
Why do we accept a constantly eroding education system?
Why do we not scale minimum wage consistent to inflation?
I know the real answers, but I think more of the population needs to vote based on the results of them asking themselves why this is the norm and find the candidate willing to fix that shit.
I have a feeling it won’t be an establishment Democrat.
The answer to obstruction at every level of government is to push back at every level of government then.
That means getting involved in local government. You. Me. Us. All of us. Starting now.
True but nothings going to happen until we both demand it and actually do something about it.
The time to be hopeful that one of the major parties has an awakening is over.
I don’t have all the answers, I just know the DNC lost my confidence.
Gotta fight fire with fire at some point.
Or we can make a fire extinguisher
As much as I agree I don’t see it happening unfortunately.
More on the “fuck the DNC get locally active in politics and coalesce around a better party and candidate” side atm. They’ve had too many chances.
So beat them at their own game?
Not arguing that. Electronic door releases are nice but complicate things in an emergency.