I guess my idea was a somewhat unregulated version of /politics , with far less “approved sources”, and more discussion and non media news outlet narratives. Basically I liked what that former site’s /r/politics community was before 2015 when people could post anything, editorize within reason. It could be a self post, a link, discussion, etc.

I don’t really want to ‘limit’ what people submit, but that might change if people think it’s not working out well.

I mean look at Lemmy circa June of last year. All of the people who fled ‘that former site’ to come here said this place felt like an old version of the internet, like 1990s forums/usenet. I was just going for that sort of community, and hopefully people willingly follow the rules.

I like the opinion piece idea though, I’ll add that to the sidebar.

I’m not sure if this is allowed but I just wanted to put the updated address here: !politicaldiscussion@lemmy.world . I changed the name from what it was originally as this seemed like a better description.

What happens when foreign actors intent on influencing public policy decide to harass everyone critical of their issue? People will just stop being critical of the foreign narrative to stop the harassment, and you’ll wind up with posts that are completely against the public interest and for the foreign narrative.

You can already see this effect to some degree in comments, it’ll only get worse if everything is made public in the UI.

As counterintuitive as it is, regulated secrecy is necessary in all democratic processes, and I would argue that includes online forum debates.

It would actually be nice if community mods had the capability to turn the community to anonymous for comments and posts as well. Is knowing who posts the information more important than the information itself? If it’s worthwhile to share from one person, it’s worthwhile to share from everyone else so identity isn’t all that important.

The source code for Lemmy is free for all to view and modify, there will be no authoritarianism… And if it were to happen all of Lemmy administrators would either refuse the upgrade and stay retrograde, or quickly fork. The devs don’t really have total control of thousands of servers to have free reign to do stuff like reddit corp does.

I’m all for vote privacy in the UI. There are just too many downsides to public votes, and not as much weight to the positives in my opinion. People should not be afraid of backlash from down voting if a post does not contribute, it’ll only create echo chambers/ unchallenged groupthink.

Nothing4You commented Aug 14, 2024 •

mods can already see votes in communities they moderate since 0.19.4, so this would be reducing what is visible today:

and

Dessalines commented 5 days ago

I’d like to clarify that mods should only be able to see votes for the communities they mod only.

Admins can see all votes.

I dunno, we’re on 0.19.3 so I don’t see it but I guess it’s there.

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4967#issuecomment-2289596923

yep, tyranny of the majority is still tyranny. It’s worth defending the 3% who disagree with the majority opinion cause, more often than not, sometimes the majority is wrong…

Defending the secret vote is the key to a functioning democracy, without it you just get cliques and in-groups who bully the outsiders. No one wins in that scenario, as critical thinking and critique are actively discouraged.

someone commented on github (I think it was Desallines) that the vote viewing feature has been available since 0.19.4 . Lemmy world is still on 0.19.3 .

Yes they should, unfortunately I don’t think that’s technically possible with the fediverse model as the servers have to communicate that info over Activity pub, at least that’s my understanding of it.

Yeah there is already too much of a hivemind already, we don’t need to make votes public, it would only enshrine a permanent 100% groupthink. It is a very bad idea.

That must have been an admin, mods can’t see votes as far as I’m aware. Only domain administrators can see votes

I mean it’s in /asklemmy too. I suggested voting for Kamala a few days ago is better than Trump if we want to move closer to universal healthcare and apparently I’m a murderer of 70000 people because of a pragmatic view of voting for her is better than Trump.

It was so quiet and nice a few weeks ago when everyone agreed for a short period Kamala was decent. Now the disinformation campaign has restarted, supporting her is supporting the “neo-liberal/pro-corporate agenda”. So bloody tired of conservative/Russian bots.

yeah but it ceased being used 8 years ago by the US government because of it’s use as a derogatory term and the dehumanizing effect it has.

Words tend to have a liquid definition over a period of decades. Take the british term for cigarettes that most people know and what it now means; innocent words tend to very easily morph and are weaponized in a way that is distant from their original meaning. Seemingly moreso in modern times.

illegal alien is such an offensive phrase… they’re not aliens, they’re homo sapiens. Anyone who still uses the term is insane.

as long as they don’t pull that let that ATSC 3.0 bullshit. I fear nothing will be free in the future. Forced ads you can’t block or fast forward through, no ability to mute, targeted advertisement and loss of privacy (yes with OTA). ref

The worst part is I’m 100% sure the general public wouldn’t give a shit since they get more and better channels with the “upgrade”.

It’s not a slur. The saying is from the movie Idiocracy where society talks like that.

I was implying that Lemmy is in that state of Idiocracy where real issues aren’t discussed but calling everyone a couch fucker who you disagree with is ok.

Yeah let’s talk about some stupid meme instead of real issues like single payer healthcare, inequality, and I dunno maybe the fact we just had the hottest ever recorded temperatures on Earth in human history.

Filling the narrative with this drama detracts from focusing public attention on real issues.

But I guess this Vance guy prob just needs to drink what plants crave and not talk like a fag and everything will be ok.

Pure sine wave or modified? Modified (square wave) are not good for electronics, particularly computers.

still the behavior of a bully. Might work in the short term but in the long term everyone hates the bully regardless if it the ends seem to justify the means.

I’m with you except for the fucking couches part. It was a joke someone on Twitter said that had no basis in reality (AP fact checked), and repeating it, knowing its not true, is the behavior of a bully.

Call him a fascist because that’s what he is, not some made up insult with no basis in reality.

or in the case of parents buying SUVs to make their own children safe, children are 8 times more likely to die when struck by an SUV versus a passenger car. (ie: in their own driveway) And that’s not even factoring the added risk of blindspots for children too small to be seen from the driver seat!

children are eight times more likely to die when struck by a SUV compared to those struck by a passenger car

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0022437522000810