Yeah the loop@switch basically puts the feed from switch to switch, which is now almost universal to new builds because of how much it benefits downlight installations and how popular they are.

Only the switched live goes up to the roof.

In older houses, loop @ rose was common as a single twin & earth could go to the switch, with red/brown taking a live current to the switch and the black/blue taking a switched live back to the light. These should be marked with brown sleeving over the blue to indicate it’s a switched live line.

In these instances (as commented by others) you can take down the ceiling rose and access the permanent live & neutral as well as switch wires from there instead.

Sounds like your house builder was very much “the old ways” though as it’s really uncommon in new builds to still do it at the ceiling rose.

UK here and zero.

New build house that is using loop @switch i.e. the live goes switch to switch and the light fitting gets a single cable to the rose providing the switched live power from the switch.

It has made 1,2 &3 way lights really easy to convert.

Still uses ring rather than radial for sockets annoyingly.

I have found I can fit sonoff minis into both metal and plastic 35mm boxes. However, removing the box, wiring up in a maintenance free box with wago lever clips, put that in the wall cavity and feed a new cable for the switch only back into the box and doing it back up is a god solution.

Alternatively, put a single gang box at the same height as extraction fan isolation switches (almost roof) with a blanking plate and intercept the wiring there.

I have cameras inside my home and want to share something really personal and important about where this came in VERY helpful to have recording all the time.

Inside our home, we have cameras covering all the living spaces: hallway, lounge, home office, kitchen, dining & upper floor landing.

It was part security, part pet monitoring when at the office that it was originally done inside as well as out.

We do not geofence cut power or recording at any time.

Not long after getting it installed on a lovely weekend day, my (then) 14 year old daughter got up in the morning and came down the stairs. The dog had been unwell and so we had an old baby gate across the stairs to stop him moving to the carpeted areas of the house. It wasn’t fixed in place, just an obstruction for the dog.

My daughter decided to climb over this rather than move it, slipped and fell.

I won’t go into details, but she required an emergency ambulance to accident & emergency and needed surgery to repair significant tissue damage.

Now, I don’t know if you have ever taken a teenage girl to A&E with genital mutilation before, but the staff there ask you lots of questions, repeating them OVER AND OVER. This is because they have a duty of care to ensure that YOU are NOT ABUSING this or other children.

My partner however retrieved the footage of the fall happening and sent it onto me and I was able to show this footage to staff. IMMEDIATELY they stopped asking me what happened.

If you have cameras at home and currently set them to not record/switch off when home, I highly recommend changing that setting.