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  • SydHoar@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    I don’t really get the Raya is better than Ramsdale argument, when Raya has made a near fatal mistake in almost every game he’s played. Arteta clearly prefers Raya, and we can trust Arteta without pretending Raya is a better than Ramsdale when he is not.

    • Special-Discount228@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      Raya is better for the system because he can bait the press without shitting himself and pumping it forward every time. That’s the key part. Other than that he’s definitely not worse than Rambo has been for the last 6 months. Let’s not forget Rambo has been making error after error leading up to raya starting games. This season alone there was good reason Rambo could have been pulled off early and raya subbed on he was that bad.

    • Groundbreaking_Tie35@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      Raya’s body of work is much larger then the 3 or so mistakes he’s made for us so far. He’s been a premier league keeper of note for years now believe it or not.

      • SydHoar@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        Raya is 28 if he was a world class keeper he’d have been play at a big club a long time ago.

        • SugarTrayRobinson@alien.topB
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          1 year ago

          Horrific ball knowledge, keepers have always and forever been the one position where you can consistently find world class level players spending their prime for mid clubs.

          Sommer spent his entire prime at Gladbach and he’s Top 10 ITW over the last decade. Unai Simon is top 10 ITW right now and he’s been at Bilbao his whole career. Pickford, literally England’s #1 ahead of Ramsdale btw, is playing for relegation battling Everton. Just a laughable notion that world class keepers only play for big clubs, it has never ever been true in the history of this sport.

          • SydHoar@alien.topB
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            1 year ago

            Sommer is not a world class keeper what are you on about oh my goodness. Pickford is not a world class keeper. You are using average keepers and it’s undermining your point entirely, because world class goalkeepers like every other position are picked up while they are young. Not saying the mature at the same rate as outfield players.

    • NemoDropEmOff@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      I mean he is better. He’s a better shot stopper imo. Easily. Look at the goals Ramsdale conceded last season. Also, the dumbest decisions I’ve seen Ramsdale make last season, I’ve yet to see Raya make those same mistakes.

      Ramsdale was one of the worst GKs last season when you look at the numbers. He was underperforming massively in a title challenging side. You’ve only given Raya 8 league games lol.

      • Acefire4@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        Every GK makes mistakes, even Ederson made some against Chelsea.

        But the best GK’s don’t let these get into their head and know it’s just part of the game. For Ramsdale if he makes a mistake early you know it will play in his mind and he’ll have a very shaky game because of it, such as punting the ball long into no-mans land out of fear of making another mistake.

    • younes1008@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      In 22/23: Raya prevented 4.6 goals (3rd best in the league. Ramsdale allowed 2 more goals than he should (worse than David de Gea). Besides this Raya offers more on the ball as an extra man in the build up. Keep crying all you want about how Ramsdale is a better keeper but you’re objectively wrong.