Probably time to move in, Victim FC is Liverpools crown.
Top down angle is the view. Not this one.
If its Manchester United its obviously disallowed. If its Newcastle, City or Liverpool its clear goal :)
Bro’s team invented “until we score” injury time in the early 2000s and has the audacity to comment that
Jesus. Talk about rent free.
Considering we’ve had one of if not the most ridiculous decision go against us in PL history. Maybe pipe down a bit.
the most ridiculous decision go against us in PL history.
😅 Horse shit. There’s been hundreds of absolutely diabolical decisions since the Premier League’s inception but an incorrectly given offside is the most ridiculous? Get over yourselves for fuck sake!
Its a womens game so no VAR
Been here before. The ball is a sphere. Yes bottom of the ball is definitely over the line. Not necessarily the left arc of the ball. Been shown on tv directly from above and it’s literally a whole new ball game. Arsenal v Newcastle was the game I believe.
To be honest, could they not just change the rule to “if you can see grass it’s out.”
You look birds eye, and side on if possible… If either show grass it’s out.
This one actually isn’t over the line though
It can’t be proved either way, has the be the original decision, same with Hojlands goal against Brighton. Would it be too expensive to put the goal line tech in all over the pitch?
Just because you put the descisions in the hands of a computer doesn’t mean they’ll be right. Maybe consistent at least, I’ll give you that.
Can’t tell with 100% certainty from that angle. It looks out, but from behind the line it might look in
Dead along the line is going to be fucking close - maybe a millimetre or less.
As there’s no way to be certain, VAR should stick with the on-field decision.
(And I don’t see why we don’t have “goal line tech” around the whole pitch, tbh)
(And I don’t see why we don’t have “goal line tech” around the whole pitch, tbh)
Because it takes 15 cameras and $250K per match to run the GOAL line tech, increase the cost sigificantly and cameras to have that technology around the whole pitch…
It costs $250k to install, and then about $4k per game.
Well, that would be a reason right enough!
That said, we were told the clubs decided against fully automated offside because of the price but it’s used in European matches (I think?) so half the clubs probably have it anyway
All they need to do is some math, and make a second line where if it is past that point, the ball is out.
Whoever the fuck is charging 250k per game needs shooting. As do whoever agreed to pay that.
Surely there’s more than 1 company doing this stuff in 2023 no?
Would be a lot cheaper to just put a camera facing down the line and let VAR quickly review whether the ball was out of it’s a goal. Just need cameras in the right places
No, that’s not how much it costs to do, that’s how much the prem would be charged to do it. Fifa or the FA could absolutely work towards making a FAR more affordable option but that wouldn’t be good business would it?
Wow, it’s that slow of a news week?
Average international break
If its not clear and obvious VAR should stand down
If the ball isn’t out of play then it is a clear and obvious error though, right?
Mostly just playing devils advocate but do you think there is any issue with the ‘clear and obvious’ to overturn the on field decision in these circumstances where it may be the case that the on field ref doesn’t actually know what had happened and so avoids making a call?
That’s very clearly out of play, like how’s this even a question?
It is not very clearly out of play. Obviously you have been out of touch with other similar decisions made in the men’s game recently.
That ball is more out than in.
Ot should be disallowed.
What?
“More out than in” doesn’t make sense - it’s either out, or it’s in. If it’s a teeny weenie bit in, it’s in.
Please go and read the rules
At a glance, its out.
How is a linesman supposed to know if its 1mm inside?
You said “it’s more out than in”, that isn’t the rule
Easy fix: make the ball a cube
Why do they not just make it so that some part of the ball has to be touching the field of play (including the lines) in order for the ball to be considered in play? That way if you can see grass, it’s definitely out.
Can’t wait to have a long debate about VAR in a game where VAR wasn’t used.
Why didn’t they just say that it’s in if the bottom doesn’t touch the line. Would’ve been a lot easier.
It’s gone out, simple as.
You don’t even need technology to measure for the lines. The ball is a sphere, it’s a set shape with set measurements. If you measure from the line to the centre base of the ball you can find out if it is overhanging or not.
More than one way to find out but installing some basic algorithm into VAR would blow their tiny brains
Not how cameras work, not how algorithms work.