In the few short hours since I started using #Threads, #DuckDuckGo has already blocked over 200 data tracking attempts. These include things like “headphone status” and “screen density.”
I started using #Threads
Ah, I see, there’s the problem.
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People left Facebook because it got overwhelmed with their parents and grandparents, not because they ever cared about privacy.
Idk, literally everyone I know has a Facebook page. They may not use it, buts it’s there almost like a listing in a phone book.
Facebook won’t let me login to delete mine unless I send them a photo of my drivers license. Not gonna happen.
Happened to me. Had a fake profile to test some apps and when they asked for an ID, I literally sent a pic of my MIDDLE FINGER. They accepted.
Did you make sure to remove the EXIF metadata? It would be ironic if it has the image location coordinates in it.
200 iq move by facebook, now they have the biometric reading from the nail on your middle finger
I know not a single one who has that. My wife uses WhatsApp and Instagram though.
I hate whatsapp, but I “have to” use it, because otherwise I would be unable to talk to 98% of my RL contacts.
Has a lot to do with age demographics and the inability for Meta to allow a person to easily delete their page. Many if not most millennials have a Facebook page, but like myself, never use it and when asked if I have a Facebook, say no even though I technically have a one I don’t log in to.
Anecdotally, most of the people I know over the age of 45 have a Facebook and use it regularly. I don’t know very many zoomers, but the few sub-30 year olds I do know, never even made a Facebook account, but do use Instagram.
I had a person that hated me in high school create a FB page that said I graduated from Harvard and worked at a gay bar with a picture she sneakily took like a creep. Idiots believed it was my FB page and asked why I wasn’t accepting their friend requests. Not sure if the page still exists, I had family ask to try and take it down but I don’t use Facebook to know if anything happened.
Well, what we learned from those tech whistleblowers was that, even those of us that never even made a FB account have a profile made of us from pictures and things people said about us on their fuckin FB accounts. This probably goes for those of us born before ‘95, but I would assume that practice is only heightened by data scraped from Android devices, the expanded access via Instagram, the leaps in tech, etc for those born after ‘95.
So buckle up, folks. It’s all bad.
I pretty much have to have some form of Meta account or else I’m considered “shady” by some people. I haven’t even logged in in years, but just saying the username is appaeently enough.
I try to limit letting that kind of person into my life.
The phone book was not a big tech corporation, which is why it was a suitable place to have your phone number.
It was owned by a big tech corporation, Ma Bell. And then it got broken up and there were just a bunch of smaller monopolies printing phone books.
I didnt know that… thank you, stranger.
Big tech monopolies involved in everything, im just tired of it.
One of the advantages(?) of being old is you remember all the previous times corporations have fucked us over in various ways. The phone company monopoly which turned into mini-monopolies was just one more example unfortunately. At least that one’s over now.
Damn, just straight up stealing other people’s content. Very cool
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- The name of your first crush.
- Your religious beliefs.
- Your innermost fears.
- That thing you did in June of 2007 that you must never speak about.
You just reminded me of the random surveys that used to sometimes come in the mail for my Mum back before the internet was a thing. I flipped through a couple and it asked things like if you have a pet and what brand of cat food you gave them and all this totally random shit. I wonder what benefit to the home owner there was for filling such a bullshit survey in.
These days, Facebook would probably just use some AI to scan your photos and figure out if you have a cat and what brand of food it eats. You’d never know, and you gave away any defence the moment you uploaded the image.
I’ve recently started taking a lot of international flights for work.
Now the ad algorithms thinks I’m some international jet setter and I get ads for luxury boats.
Hey shut up about the spaghetti incident
i get that these are jokes, but doesn’t the app store description literally include religious orientation in the list?
yep
Why in the first place do you want to use that garbage?
Agreed.
Orientation? Why would Facebook need to know if my phone is gay? Jk, I know they really want to know my phone’s political orientation. Joke’s on them, my phone voted for Megatron.
It also wants to know how stupid my screen is for some reason??
In the name of Vectron I bring you greetings, ambassador. May the power of Vectron bring prosperity unto your house.
It’s unbelievable that an app which collect this many data points, including voice, is legally allowed. Insane. Yes, people should not use it and should care, but come on… this is just mass surveillance and collection.
Well, that’s how Cambridge Analytica scandal happened
Ross Schulman, senior fellow for decentralization at digital rights nonprofit the Electronic Frontier Foundation, notes that if Threads emerges as a massive player in the fediverse, there could be concerns about what he calls “social graph slurping." Meta will know who all of its users interact with and follow within Threads, and it will also be able to see who its users follow in the broader fediverse. And if Threads builds up anywhere near the reach of other Meta platforms, just this little slice of life would give the company a fairly expansive view of interactions beyond its borders.
https://www.wired.com/story/meta-threads-privacy-decentralization/
including voice
how else would facebook live and such work?
i mean some of these makes sense
but its also a question of … does the app use all these things, all the time?
do we know?
On my mac i have to allow discord to record my voice etc. if i dont, i can still use the app but i cant talk in a voice call, and such.
i’d like if apps did similar, on phones. they’d work but some functions would just be unavailable
A year ago or so when I wanted to check what Facebook had on me, so I requested my data. The document I got from them also included what apps I used at what times. I don’t mean Facebook apps, I saw at what times I used apps such as Discord and countless other apps I have on my phone.
I am guessing Google has given Facebook special permissions to access more features and data on user devices without prompting too. An average app developer has to ask for each and every permission, but Facebook can afford to pay Google for some questionable deals regarding privacy.
Actually, apps can check how many times other apps have been opened without any special permission. You can create a Work Profile with applications like Shelter and install all of these spyware there!
i’d like if apps did similar, on phones. they’d work but some functions would just be unavailable
Both Android and iPhones let you do this last I checked
That’s your fault for using threads
You got a good point. I minimized my usege of Facebook to the
minimummaximum.Does that mean you maximised your usage? 🤔
Lol I meant the other way around ahah
Meta is a threat to the privacy of fediverse users, if there are fediverse instances that remain federated with Meta.
Ross Schulman, senior fellow for decentralization at digital rights nonprofit the Electronic Frontier Foundation, notes that if Threads emerges as a massive player in the fediverse, there could be concerns about what he calls “social graph slurping." Meta will know who all of its users interact with and follow within Threads, and it will also be able to see who its users follow in the broader fediverse. And if Threads builds up anywhere near the reach of other Meta platforms, just this little slice of life would give the company a fairly expansive view of interactions beyond its borders.
https://www.wired.com/story/meta-threads-privacy-decentralization/
Thank you EU!
What I don’t understand is why people wound even want to use this app…
What possible appeal could it have?
Using Threads knowing it’s a product of Zuck, is like voting for Trump in 2024 cause he wore a different style suit.
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You say that, but if he went out on stage in a pink sequins suit with assless chaps because it would somehow “own the libs”, a tragically high number of people would be all over that.
Remember kids; assless chaps don’t exist, it’s just chaps. If they had asses, they’d be pants!
Hey, if a bloke happened to be a waist-down amputee, I’d say he’s an assless chap. They can exist.
The Proud Boys leader fucked a dildo to own the libs. So you’re not wrong.
Oh God I forgot about that lmao, what a fucking idiot. I wonder how many of his fellow Proud Boys tried it out too 🤣
Bro, put one up mine too! Come on man we gotta own them!
If you are already eating out of a dumpster, even the worst fast food looks appetizing.
There’s a lot of dumpster divers out there, too. According to an AP article Threads “has drawn tens of millions of users since launching this week”.
That’s nuts. And depressing.
They probably funneled them in with an ad from Instagram.
“Okay so it’s basically Twitter, but with like… Facebook features…” Is literally a joke I have made about annoying app ideas people have when you tell them you’re a software developer.
I have made this joke a few times, because it killed every time.
I’m stunned. Out of material, and stunned.
Had a dude tell me he wanted to ‘disrupt’ social media by creating a LinkedIn alternative that allowed posting videos.
He just needed a couple ‘techies’ like me to get it off the ground.
Haven’t heard from him in a while. I hope rehab worked out for him.
Your responsible for this you willed this evil into the world I cast you out to the sea and rocks below to you and your twitter with Facebook features
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It will be interesting to see how quickly companies will substitute the “follow us” troika of icons on their website and brochures from a blue f, camera and blue bird to a blue f, camera and stylised black T.
I assume that printing companies will make a packet reprinting all those brochures, or selling little stickers to cover up the little blue bird.
What is Dril?
A guy on twitter who’s kinda funny.
I googled him/her/it just in case it was a leggy, smoking hot “influencer”.
Yeah no. Maybe a kind of influencer?
That’s just the tip of the iceberg. I can’t relate to anything in that comment.
Well the majority was clearly him being facetious
If your using facetious does it track you?
And *you’re
My phones Swype function feels horrible.
the sad truth seems to be that vast majority of people just don’t care about the threats.
I’d guess you have to like Twitter in the first place to understand the appeal. Some people like it, some don’t, but the Twitter format has been pretty popular over the years, and this comes at at time when Elron has been making twitter dramatically worse for anyone who doesn’t share his political views. Meta gives the appeal as “having a platform that is sanely run, that they believe that they can trust and rely upon for distribution”. At this point, even if I thought Elron was a great guy I sure wouldn’t invest much in building my twitter account as the future of the site seems shaky. Also though, on the other hand, who knows if this will be a success for Meta and whether they’ll still support it 3 years from now.
I do have a Twitter account but I almost never use it anymore because it has become such a cesspool…
I just don’t think another copy of that cesspool run by a different asshole is likely to really be any more interesting than the original.
I did have an account, until the API changes made Twitteriffic unusable and all the people I follow left. Then I started using Reddit.
Now I use Mastodon and Lemmy. I will not go back to using a Social network that does not have; A) an open API which allows my choice of third party apps. B) a way to migrate my data and content.
The exceptions are Apple Messages (for family and close friends), SMS (for family and close friends who do t have iPhones) and Facebook under a fake name, sandboxed in FireFox Focus.
We all have our exception (s)
Even if you don’t have Threads app installed. Meta is still a privacy threat for fediverse users. If there are fediverse instances that remain federated with Meta. And there are already millions of people who joined Threads in just a day.
Ross Schulman, senior fellow for decentralization at digital rights nonprofit the Electronic Frontier Foundation, notes that if Threads emerges as a massive player in the fediverse, there could be concerns about what he calls “social graph slurping." Meta will know who all of its users interact with and follow within Threads, and it will also be able to see who its users follow in the broader fediverse. And if Threads builds up anywhere near the reach of other Meta platforms, just this little slice of life would give the company a fairly expansive view of interactions beyond its borders.
https://www.wired.com/story/meta-threads-privacy-decentralization/
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I’m not really sure, but then again I also didn’t really understand the point of Twitter, so I’m a bit biased.
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I always say: Almost like Reddit, but instead of following topics, you follow idiots
Edit: I should add that reddit is now down the drain, that’s why I’m here now, lol. Federated Internet for the win!
There is a percentage of people who are fucking weird bro.
Yeah, about 9 out of 10.
Umm… That’s a fraction, not a percentage… /S
It works, unlike this place.
People here complaining about Threads and TikTok (Chinese owned) being the defacto social network for an entire generation over there without outrage, and when it’s outrage about it people just say “at least is not the US” what kind of defense is that?
I’m so tired can you re explain what you trying to say
Post complaining about Meta collecting too much data from its users but Tiktok which has much more users than Threads and almost the same as FB doesnt get the same amount of complains, and when it does people shrugged off saying “at least is not owned by an US company” implying some would rather give their data to a chinese company.
I usually don’t like these types of comments but here we go: Because in TikTok america bad memes are really popular. And TikTok is owned by the Chinese. What a coincidence.I don’t understand how TikTok is being defended here, its basically propaganda.Wasn’t there a case of like a huuge amount of videos critizising the chinese goverment removed?
“America bad” is a popular genre in literally every social network, just not in 'murican bubbles. It’s almost like the entire world hates the US about as much as China.
Pretty fair point but I just feel like its turned up to 11. The amount of memes about 911 and other stereotypical stuff on my friends feed is not comparable to other sosial media.
Woah dude don’t get racial
American isn’t a race!
Looking at the data collection categories in the ios app store for Threads is terrifying. Similarly, mastodon collects nothing. General population doesn’t seem to care though given the number of signups that Threads has received in the last few days. People are happy to give their information away.
Shit, did your phone extend a needle for a blood test?
Why did you download threads in the first place? Just scanned the app in exodus and the list of trackers is worse than all meta apps combined
Perhaps to inform us all? Recon style self infection and inflitration of the brainwashed megacorp corps.
Meta is still a privacy threat for fediverse users, if there are fediverse instances that remain federated with Meta.
Ross Schulman, senior fellow for decentralization at digital rights nonprofit the Electronic Frontier Foundation, notes that if Threads emerges as a massive player in the fediverse, there could be concerns about what he calls “social graph slurping." Meta will know who all of its users interact with and follow within Threads, and it will also be able to see who its users follow in the broader fediverse. And if Threads builds up anywhere near the reach of other Meta platforms, just this little slice of life would give the company a fairly expansive view of interactions beyond its borders.
https://www.wired.com/story/meta-threads-privacy-decentralization/
I thought they were browsing the threads website via duckduckgo.
How do I get duckduckgo to block tracking attempts?
Okay I think I have it. I just installed the duckduckgo app and enabled the tracking protection in settings. And right now I am shocked. The amount of tracking attempts in the last 30 minutes has been mind boggling. 300 attempts and counting! Is this normal?
Yes, very normal for social media platforms, specially Facebook, anything related to Facebook, and even apps and third parties that use things like sign in with Facebook.
Same. Then I looked for an alternative app that comes on on boot. Found one called Karma FW on fdroid
I enabled it just now and got a massive list from opening the memrise app. In total, 212 so far over 3 apps. I’ve been using ddg for ages, I never really gave a second thought to the optional features. Thanks to everyone who’s been posting screenshots of it!
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Droplets is literally a kid’s app.
Is this the ddg browser? Are you seeing what it blocks through the browser or does it somehow block on the phone outside the browser like firewalls?
It enables a local vpn on your device. Yes, it’s in the ddg browser, but it’s blocking it from the actual apps.
Are you using Threads on the duckduckgo browser?
If you block them from collecting even one of those things, they’ll lock you out of your account until you show them your ID and SSN. It should be illegal for social media to spy on you THAT invasively.
Ah, so it’s a stupidity test.
Yep
