At the moment i have a 13700f and it looks like i have a cpu bottleneck with my current gpu (a 4090) and im not sure what would be the best option for upgrading since im also a bit flat on money now since i got my new gpu
Also im not sure if the prices here in my country are high but the 13900k is about 700 USD and the 14900k is about 800usd and the 14700k is about 500usd.
You will always have cpu bottleneck even with 14900k. No cpu available can supply enough instruction to a 4090 to max it out. If i were you, id turn of your monitor program and enjoy the game. Youre chasing yt figures that arent relevant
Quit watching YouTube videos about performance benchmarks and go play some games with your overpowered system, man. And turn off stat monitoring, it’s messing with your anxiety. Your PC is among the top 1% worldwide.
I’m guilty of this obsessive need to keep track of my PC’s stats during gaming. I’m still running an i7 4790k + RTX 3060. The CPU has been with me since Dec 2014. 😅
THIS
13700k is already pretty damn good you shouldn’t need to upgrade, you already have all 8 pcores.
But sure if you want you could get a 14700k or 14900k. Probably 14900k if you want to see a difference. But again, it will be small. You already have 95% of the gaming performance avaliable on the socket.
Are you sure you’re not experiencing, like a game engine limitation or something? What are you trying to do that you can’t?
But I have the 13700f not a k…
Its cuz whenever i play games after i switched my gpu i cant get higher than 70% utilisation on the gpu where my cpu is pushing all it can
Let’s assume you get a 14900K then, overclock it to 6 GHz P-cores using direct die cooling, and throw on 8000 MT/s DDR5 with a Z790 Apex Encore for good measure. You’re now somewhere around 30% faster in games than your previous setup, and GPU utilization will occasionally hit 90% instead of 70%
All for the neat sum of roughly 2000 USD
30% is also a bit generous.
Lol, true
Oh I see. Sorry I missed that. Yeah I suppose a 14700k wouldn’t be a bad upgrade since you can still get pretty good money for your existing cpu. Your all core boost would go from 5.1 to 5.5. Thats something. But just so you know, it can be hard to get 100% utilization out of the 4090 on any cpu, especially at lower resolutions.
a 14900K is about what? 5-10% faster? not worth it, wait a few months and buy a 8800X3D
Also… 14900K vs 13700F is 12% faster single-core and 50% faster multi-core.
yeah… most people dont care about multithreading, and yeah, 12% st is important, but 8800X3D is said to deliver 20% better st? read that even 30% is possible, while being way way more efficient and like 30-40% better in gaming… 14900K is a waste of money if already have the 13700
and i say that an i9 is pointless as a 13900K owner, ill upgrade ASA 8800X3Ds are available
As a 13700F and 14900K owner I’ll say that I’ll be waiting to see how the 8800X3Ds actually perform before even thinking about getting one.
lol 8800X3D requires basically a whole new computer
The difference is how well AMD supports their platform to be honest. AM5 could easily last someone ten years. I’d say it’s absolutely atleast worth considering. Until Intel abandons their current socket and platform changes I’ll absolutely never go back.
I wouldn’t upgrade unless you really need higher frame rates.
If you do upgrade, I’d buy the cheapest of the three as they’ll perform similarly. I would also consider the 13700k if you can save more.
You’ll need a substantial cooler especially if you want to overclock.
13700K vs 13700F is not worth the upgrade cost-wise. 14900K is the most cost-effective upgrade given it will yield 12% and 50% speed gains in single-thread and multi-thread applications, respectively
Just get a good cooler and overclock the 13700k. I’m currently at 5.9 ghz all core
But I have an f model and not a k model…
Also what’s the rest of your system look like. Ram speed ect?
Ahh I see. Didn’t catch that. What resolution do you play on ?
Im playing on 2560x1440p
The 13700 none k should be able to run similar to the 13700k. Does it manage to maintain a good boost clocks? If not you should be able to get a better cooler and adjust CPU and ram bios settings so that it should be good enough for a 4090. Struggling to believe you feel the need to upgrade with a 13700f.
There are plenty of YouTube videos that show about 5% difference between a 13700f and a 13900k in game. Does your setup perform better than average in 3d mark? I’m getting it off here the posts on this thread are insane.
My advice-
Just enjoy your game. There’s always something more you can do, always something better. Even if your rocking a 4090 and 7950x3d, 7800x3d, 14900k, 13900k, exc exc you will still find yourself pushing and wanting to see how much more you can get. I’ve been heavily debating doing a water loop on my build pretty much for the same reason you want a better processor. Just to see bigger numbers. Its not like your games are running poorly or unplayable. Not like your going to get more enjoyment and a better experience with a slightly faster CPU that can push a couple of extra frames.
Fomo is a bitch. Your goal of using the 4090 a long time like “the 1080ti ppl” is kinda counter productive to your goal of “upgrading” a 13th gen to a 14th gen CPU.
If you gonna do it, I feel like you’re probably going to kick yourself if you don’t get the 14900k. It’s really the only “upgrade” worth anything from where you are now and even that is debatable. To get anything less is extra pointless imo.
So well said
You have a resolution bottleneck.
Just crank up your numbers and the CPU bottleneck will be gone :)
Already tried that 😅 it didnt help sadly 😢
Turn off dllss or others and use up sampling if you thrive for 100% usage and wasting power
Tried what? 4k monitor?
Please don’t upgrade. People place way too much emphasis on bottlenecks. I have a 4080 and a 9700k, I’m obviously bottlenecked but I really have zero negativity when gaming.
The microcenter bundles currently going on are tempting me because for $500 I can get a 14700k/mobo/16gigs ddr5 ram and sell my old system for like $200.
In your case just wait. 14th Gen is a minor refresh so hopefully Intel brings out some big gains next year.
Well its just really anoying that i spend about 2k on a 4090 to o ly get about the same performance in most games
What GPU were you using before? What games are we talking about?
OP get the 14900k and don’t look back.
Turn up your graphics and you’ll see the major difference.
But I am already playing at max settings
By that I also mean resolution, such as 4K, 8K, 16K
Instead of buying a new expensive ass CPU to alleviate a bottleneck that will always exist. I think you should use that money to get a mini led 4k monitor instead while they’re on sale for Black Friday. It’ll solve your GPU bottleneck and provide a better image, especially with HDR.
im also a bit flat on money now since i got my new gpu
if i was in your situation i would save my spare change a year or so then purchase the next generation processor…
Yeah but to be honest if i really wanted to i could buy a 14700f every month And still save a little bit…
that’s some very flawed budget-logic
But you also said you are flat on money, so which one is it? The fact that you could buy 4090 / can buy 14900k doesn’t mean you should
…No you do not have a bottleneck…(both Intel 13.Gen CPU and 40.Nvidia had release in October 2022).
The so called “best” should be the 14900k (of course), but you won’t recognize thaaat much of a difference. If you have the money and the desire, treat yourself.
I have a 13700k not overclocked and a 4090 and I don’t see a bottleneck at all, everything runs very well. Is something else happening you may not be recognizing? Upgrading to a 14 series won’t do much for you expect cost you money, by all accounts it would be closer to a “sideways” upgrade over an actual increase in performance.
Before upgrading your CPU
- What fps do you get?
- What is your screen resolution? Refresh rate?
- What is your game config? Which games?
Do you play CS 2 and getting only 400 fps instead of 600 on 1440p and it bothers you? Or do you play 4k games with RT on maxed out graphics but not fully utilizing your GPU?
13700f is fairly strong, and should be capable of handling relatively high frame rates, so your game configuration might have a lot to do with your bottleneck.
If you are tight on money DON’T upgrade your PC, especially if it’s just because of neglectable bottleneck.
That’s the reason why I’m going all in tomorrow & spending a whoppin $4312 dollars at Microcenter for a gaming rig LOL