I’ve always been curious how he was at Real Madrid since I never really followed him after his transfer after the 2014 WC.

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    Probably should have kept Ozil in hindsight. I know he wanted to go, but he was a much more impactful player than James

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        He has this body language and languid demeanour that gave him the tag of being “lazy”. Ozil was a baller and a class player.

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        Football is a team game and one player being “lazy” wouldn’t cost a squad as talented as that Madrid team trophies. He was an integral part of one of the few la liga winning teams Madrid has had since 2010, and went on to win a world cup and 4 fa cups. He was no more lazy than Isco, James or even Zizou himself.

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          Isco was off and on as a start for most of those wins. Ozil would never have been content with that.

          The Madrid team Zidane played in had too many creative players and needed more steel. There’s a reason they didn’t win more.

          The fa cup is barely worth a shout when you were part of a team that should have been doing more.

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        I don’t think Ozil had a reputation for laziness in Spain. Could be wrong, but I only remember that criticism really taking shape at Arsenal

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          He was more consistent with Madrid and they were a better team than Arsenal. So his play wasn’t as noticeable. I’m not trying to say he wasn’t great, just I feel younger fans watch his videos are overhype him.

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            That’s true. I also think it points to different teams needing different things from players. Arsenal were supposed to be a high pressing team whereas Real Madrid in that time were very counterattacking. He was expected to run a lot more for Arsenal so it stood out that he was bad at it.

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              That’s fair. They did counter a lot and he was able to sit and collect the ball, before releasing it or using it himself.

              I still think he was a bit lazy with Madrid too. I always felt with a bit more effort he could have been world class and remembered as an all timer. But for me, he just never reached that level enough and that’s why he was great but not world class. (I say world class as top 5. I don’t like using the word for every body.)

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        That’s not true they wanted to play 4-3-3 and he didn’t fit in that “‘ lazy “ was created my British media

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          He coasts through games, and has nothing to do with the British media. The man could be a genius but he was not a big game player at all.

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      Ozil’s link up with Ronaldo was great to watch for the brief period they were together.