Raya hasn’t shown yet why he’s worth £30m or why he’s better than Ramsdale. Big errors in big games people here seem to be sweeping under the rug or making excuses for.
I like Ramsdale but this isn’t a pro Ramsdale argument, it’s just the Raya isn’t yet proving to be better, and has already directly cost us points.
Raya is just better in every category that matters to Arteta who trusts him to carry out the game plan. And the eye test backs up the stats on this.
Mikel does not care about the errors either - he’s said as much publicly. What Arteta is basically telling his keepers is “I want you to take risks with the ball. If you screw up then it’s my fault, not yours.”
For the keeper it’s all mental when out on the field - to not be scared, to be willing to take the chance and execute what the manager is asking for even if every game you make an error and people wanted you dropped. Doesn’t matter to Arteta - all he will say is “get back up and keep playing like I want.”
What we saw from Ramsdale in the run in last season is that I don’t think he could handle that mentally. And Arteta got fed up with it. The loss to Brighton at home last season was the final straw when Ramsdale kept knocking it long so we couldn’t get a foothold in the game.
You say we saw what ramsdale did in the run in, take the Southampton error. But Raya has already done that twice, against City and Chelsea, even closer to his own goal.
Arteta has said that quote to support his keeper publicly, but there’s only so many times he can watch these happen with no consequence. If Raya is allowed to keep making these mistakes (which has happened a lot in his limited game time so far with both kicking and crossing) then; 1) That sets a dangerous precedent for any competition 2) The errors will keep happening because Raya isn’t good enough to change, because Arteta will insist he does the same thing.
The stats may show he’s ‘better’, but big errors against Lens, City, Newscatle and Chelsea isn’t encouraging at all, yet no one in this sub seems to have issue with those?
There’s no accountability for Raya on the short term with his errors or in the longer term with his position seemingly never going to be questioned or challenged? Never of these things are good.
Ramsdale passed directly to a southampton player and we conceded. Raya almost got stuffed by Alvarez.
Now fast forward to the 2nd half of that City game. There is no way in hell Ramsdale could distribute that calmly when holding a lead against City. That is the difference but people just drawn to individual moments completely miss that
Raya hasn’t shown yet why he’s worth £30m or why he’s better than Ramsdale. Big errors in big games people here seem to be sweeping under the rug or making excuses for.
I like Ramsdale but this isn’t a pro Ramsdale argument, it’s just the Raya isn’t yet proving to be better, and has already directly cost us points.
Raya is just better in every category that matters to Arteta who trusts him to carry out the game plan. And the eye test backs up the stats on this.
Mikel does not care about the errors either - he’s said as much publicly. What Arteta is basically telling his keepers is “I want you to take risks with the ball. If you screw up then it’s my fault, not yours.”
For the keeper it’s all mental when out on the field - to not be scared, to be willing to take the chance and execute what the manager is asking for even if every game you make an error and people wanted you dropped. Doesn’t matter to Arteta - all he will say is “get back up and keep playing like I want.”
What we saw from Ramsdale in the run in last season is that I don’t think he could handle that mentally. And Arteta got fed up with it. The loss to Brighton at home last season was the final straw when Ramsdale kept knocking it long so we couldn’t get a foothold in the game.
There’s a notable video of Pep in training basically saying the same thing generally to his players. https://x.com/KeyframeSports/status/1686669393504190464?s=20
You say we saw what ramsdale did in the run in, take the Southampton error. But Raya has already done that twice, against City and Chelsea, even closer to his own goal.
Arteta has said that quote to support his keeper publicly, but there’s only so many times he can watch these happen with no consequence. If Raya is allowed to keep making these mistakes (which has happened a lot in his limited game time so far with both kicking and crossing) then; 1) That sets a dangerous precedent for any competition 2) The errors will keep happening because Raya isn’t good enough to change, because Arteta will insist he does the same thing.
The stats may show he’s ‘better’, but big errors against Lens, City, Newscatle and Chelsea isn’t encouraging at all, yet no one in this sub seems to have issue with those?
There’s no accountability for Raya on the short term with his errors or in the longer term with his position seemingly never going to be questioned or challenged? Never of these things are good.
Ramsdale passed directly to a southampton player and we conceded. Raya almost got stuffed by Alvarez.
Now fast forward to the 2nd half of that City game. There is no way in hell Ramsdale could distribute that calmly when holding a lead against City. That is the difference but people just drawn to individual moments completely miss that