I am watching Sky Sports pre-match show now, and everybody on the table saying this 10-point deduction was harsh, and if you want to punish people, punish the owners and this and that…
I get it, Man City has over 100 allegations, and Chelsea has some too but that doesn’t change the fact Everton is in the wrong as well, personally, I think they will be fine even with the points deductions there are teams worse than them and they are playing well enough to be safe till the end of the season.
And if the end of the day, it’s proven Man City and Chelsea are also in the wrong, punish them, simple as that.
I just don’t get the feeling of “oh poor lads, they don’t deserve this…” Please, we have teams in history that suffered way more than a simple 10-point deduction and the level of outrage wasn’t near the same. We have teams that played in the Premier League out of league football because of poor management.
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I don’t feel sorry for Everton as they have done something wrong and been punished.
However I don’t think the punishment matches the crime, and the FFP have set a standard and need to keep to it.
If city and Chelsea’s allegations turn out to be true, it’s a potential of 119 points to be dropped 🤷🏻♂️ according to FFP.
I feel sorry for the fans, not “Everton” the club.
They did break the rules, they have been punished correctly.
However, the fans didn’t do anything wrong but they’re paying the price AND other side’s have not been punished even though they’ve broken more rules.
I think you don’t realise the other clubs haven’t been punished yet. Evertons was a very simple, clear cut and dry issue where they acknowledged they broke the rules, but yet it still took 8 months. Other clubs have many more charges, span more years, vehemently deny the charges, is much older and have 1000x more documents to go through.
They can’t be angry that their simple charge was dealt with faster than other clubs whose charges are hundreds times harder and longer to build a case for. That’s just stupid.
I think my least favorite argument for or against anything is “things could be worse” like your last paragraph. Sure it could. It doesn’t mean their situation doesn’t mean anything to them. Such a cold take.
I haven’t read the report but I’m going to offer an ill-informed opinion anyway. Great take.
Because while Everton did everything they could to cooperate and rectify their mistakes, City are doing whatever they fuck they want without repercussions.
The sympathy is a result of injustice.
Sick of hearing about lets wait and see for Man City, they started breaking the rules 14 years ago in 2009. Everyone questioned them then as well so lets not pretend its not an entire shitshow.
They’re just running the narrative so City get away with a [huge] fine. Fines are how you pay your bribes without drawing attention to the fact it’s a bribe.
I’m hoping this means Chelsea and Man City will be severely punished, but I am afraid they will find a way to let especially Man City off with a slap on the wrist.
Well we don’t expect sympathy from Leeds fans anyways, but other fans might not have the same hangups. For the record, we’re guilty, no ones denying that, its the disproportionate nature of the punishment
Because if they get relegated, they will more than likely go bankrupt and never recover. Which isn’t good for Football in general. And this is coming from a Liverpool fan.
Everton were working with the FA for years, were told how close they were to breaking it, yet they still spent knowing that they will break it. Its on nobody but Evertons owners.
They were deemed to have gotten a sporting advantage by overspending and breaking the rules knowingly, whilst other teams kept within the rules and were relegated. Its tough shit.
Fa said they gained no competitive advantage on the pitch.
I just read the report.
Did you not read this part?
Which bit of “sporting advantage will have been enjoyed for each of the seasons on which the PSR calculation was based – in this case, because of Covid, four seasons” Do you not understand?
Do yourself a favor and control+F and search for it. Page 29, paragraph 95.
Everton overspent by £19.5, which is peanuts in today’s game. And, if you read the report there are circumstances around new stadium interest payments, players being arrested, and a few little gambles that didn’t pay off.
Everton are no doubt in violation of sustainability rules, but it’s hardly in the nature of ‘financial doping’ or deliberate rule breaking.
I can only speak for myself, but it seems odd the punishment for literally going into administration is less severe than ‘being a bit shit with money’.
They also had losses of 371.8m over a 3 year period instead of the allowed 105m.
£19.5m might not be much, but you’ve got to have a cut off somewhere. Sure, there’s some issues with the PL changing how interest payments are considered with regards to FFP, but “gambles that didn’t pay off” would be the exact reasoning for punishment. Most clubs over-investing are hoping for a gamble to pay off, lower league clubs do it all the time to try and secure PL finances. If they manage to get promoted they’re all good, if they don’t, they’re fucked, and normally find themselves relegated within 2 years.
This £19.5m is on top of the £200m they already lost “due to Covid”. They were fortunate that a lot of the losses were disregarded because of that excuse. One of the ridiculous claims that the PL did reject was “depreciation of assets”, Everton overvalued their players and then tried claiming that covid cost them 50% of the value of sales.
Financial doping is worse I agree, and the only reason why we’ve got this reaction is because City and Chelsea haven’t been punished as of yet. There’s very little trust that they will do so either. But, Everton’s losses were a very deliberate gamble and they should rightly be punished for that. As for the administration comparison, maybe it’s a case of old rulings weren’t harsh enough. As long as this new harsh precedent is consistent I have no issue with it, and that’s the real talking point for many tbh.
I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said, and as such I agree Everton should face a sanction of some sort. But my opinion is that 10 points (again, more than for going into administration) is a little harsh.
Let me guess, the OP is a Leeds fan 🤣
Cause City are laughing all the way to the bank while having 115 charges😅
Ah yes because feeling bad for a team that was on the up before the point deduction is definitely irrational behavior. Useless post.
There is absolutely no chance city gets any real punishment even if found guilty on every charge.