I have a S22 phone and like everyone knows it has a horrible battery. I ve read a post saying that there s no use in having RAM plus activated. What exactly are the pros and cons of deactivating it and if it improves the battery?

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    1 year ago

    It was enabled in my s21 ultra. I disabled it just for the sake of the test. I didn’t observe any performance drops. I don’t think it improves performance.

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      1 year ago

      So does it save battery then? I have it on my s23U and battery doesn’t last me more then 7 hours

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        1 year ago

        From what i observed, it reduces battery timing of your phone. I’ve turned it off, and i would advise you to turn it off as well.

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        1 year ago

        RAM Plus doesn’t provide additional battery life, speed, or processing power. It only provides additional storage to keep apps open and paused in their current state, rather than closing them when RAM is filled.

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      1 year ago

      RAM Plus doesn’t provide additional speed or processing power. It only provides additional storage to keep apps open and paused in their current state, rather than closing them when RAM is filled.

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    1 year ago

    No, I don’t like the idea of sacrifice write cycles of flash memory as swap on phone

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      1 year ago

      It will literally never be a problem unless you keep your free storage space constantly under 15% it’s not a regular SD card tier flashmemory in there.

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        1 year ago

        Yes, assuming the memory controller firmware works normally

        But I guess you have forgotten the old days around Galaxy note 2 which issuing TRIM command bricks eMMC

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    1 year ago

    It is recommended to keep the feature enabled for optimal performance. Ram Plus feature enables the loading of background services and small applications, thereby freeing up RAM space for resource-intensive tasks. Disabling the feature will result in the loading of all background services and applications onto the physical RAM, potentially slowing down the system.

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      1 year ago

      That’s not true.

      1. That’s not even how operating systems work. What you’ve just described is what someone with no knowledge of OS would think happen in memory management.
      2. Ram Plus will 100% slow down your phone.
        1. the ssd speed is REALLY slow compared to the ram speed it’s not even funny. When you use SSD as ram, your whole system is as good as the slowest speed of the memory.
        2. When you use Ram Plus, your memory is mapped twice. your app will look for data at the virtual memory space address, that address will be linked to the actual memory address (i.e. storage or RAM), then it’ll be loaded up from the different addresses, and recombined, before served up as something recalled from RAM. THERE IS NO WAY TO GET A PERFORMANCE GAIN.
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        1 year ago

        I turned the RAM Plus on on my Tab S7 FE because it’s a bit laggy (I think the 4GB of RAM may be the reason) and I’ve seen an improvement. Do you think it’s only my perception? I also have read that it damages the storage, so should I turn it off?

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          1 year ago

          For devices below 6gb of ram, RAM Plus should help.

          At 4GB your device would go into swapping, and that is even more computationally expensive than RAM Plus.

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            1 year ago

            Thanks. I don’t think the Tab S7 FE us a lower end device, that’s why I can’t comprehend its 4GB of RAM gif

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              11 months ago

              S7> 865 5G+ chipset 8 GB RAM, S7 FE> 778G chipset 4GB RAM

              S7 FE is definitely a lower end device.

              Sure there’s also the A series that’s lower, but it doesn’t change the fact that the FE series of devices are considered lower end devices provided as copium for those who cannot afford the high end ones.

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                11 months ago

                I get your point, but the S7 FE is a midrange tablet. Using your logic, every Samsung phone would be a lower end device if it’s not the S23 Ultra.

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                  11 months ago

                  Mid-range IS a lower range. It’s not the lowest end, but any device in the range is still a lower-end device.

                  After all, there IS only 1 flagship in a fleet of ships. The S series used to be called a flagship series, but nowadays, everyone knows that the Ultra and the other S series phones have a feature disparity. Can one call the S series flagship phones when they don’t have all the bells and whistles, surely not.

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    1 year ago

    RAM Plus doesn’t provide additional battery life, speed, or processing power. It only provides additional storage to keep apps open and paused in their current state, rather than closing them when RAM is filled.

    Pros of RAM plus: Apps stay open longer rather than being shut down in the background

    Cons of RAM plus: Slightly less storage to be used for photos, music, apps, etc.

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    1 year ago

    For me it would not be worth it.

    My reason is because what happens, at least in my case, is that the amount of apps that I can reopen fast is increased (probably by like 2-3), but the phone feels a bit less snappy.

    I’s rather have a smappier phone than a phone that can open 2 apps more than what it can withiut the RAM plus, so I always disable it. In case that you have a phone with a lot of RAM (6GB and up), I’d suggest to disable it.

    If you have a phone with 4 or less RAM then I am not sure of what the performance difference it would be.

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    1 year ago

    i find the phone tends to close apps in the background a lot faster without it. Battery life seems to be the same tho

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    1 year ago

    I didn’t notice any battery life changes on/off but turning it off did appear to smooth out some animations when switching apps. However apps just get killed too often and have to completely restart so I turned RAM Plus back on but to the lower 2GB setting.

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    1 year ago

    I cannot think of any pros of activating it.

    The only pros of deactivating it is your phone will be a lot faster. There won’t be a lof of battery difference, but I suppose if a task without RAM plus takes you 10 seconds vs 20 seconds with RAM Plus, I guess you get “extra battery life” using girl maths?

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      1 year ago

      Main pro: more of your background apps stay open, so if you’re playing a game then switch apps a couple times, have lunch and come back to the game few hours later it resumes from where you left off instead of restarting the app