Not PL related directly, but the rules about handballs are really weird in CL. How do they give THAT as a penalty against Livramento. It came off his f***ing chest for God’s sake. Feel really sorry for him. I just feel it’s going to get even worse for defending teams once Wenger’s new offside law comes into the picture.
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Kind of funny how petty Arsenal fans are in this thread. Rather than wanting to see rules be written clearly and implemented correctly after being wronged themselves, they just want to see everyone suffer from the same shit refereeing.
No wonder nothing will ever be done about the state of refereeing when people just celebrate shit decisions because their club either wasn’t involved or they copped a bad decision weeks prior.
Now, I don’t know wether i agree with the referees decision or not altough I’m gonna play devils lawyer.
Firstly, just because the ball bounces of your chest doesn’t give you a “free pass” to touch it with the arms. As an exaggerated example, you can’t just punch the ball if you hit it with the chest first. Therefore, when the ball bounces of your chest and hits your arm it is a concrete decision wether or not the arm was in an unnatural position.
Secondly, his arm was flying. Wether or not he had the intent to hit the ball with his arm (which he definitely didn’t) his arm still had no reason to be so high up, especially because he was in the box. His arm shouldn’t have been raised to shoulder level as that MIGHT deflect a goal scoring opportunity. Because of that it is deemed a penalty when he eventually it the ball with his elbow and totally changed PSG’s opportunity.
That’s how I view it, although as stated, I havn’t thought through wether I agree with the decision or not.
It does. It’s literary in the rules.
That’s what happens when you park the bus away with one goal.
First time watching a european match eh?
Rival fans don’t watch our matches. We’ve conceded a penalty in every single CL match this season and 3 of them were bs handballs like tonight.
Media only like reporting united in crisis… according to Matt smith anyways!
This might be an unpopular opinion but new handball rules (alongside next years champions league format and even FFP if we wanna go that far) are all designed to favour the biggest teams. UEFA don’t want a competitive competition, they want one they can manage.
Generally speaking, better teams attack more, have more touches in opposition box and therefore earn more penalties. Extend this to the new interpretation of handball in UCL and I don’t see how this doesn’t favour the best teams. I’m sure UEFA much prefer when the big teams make it through to the knockouts every year to help keep money flowing.
Or maybe there’s no ulterior motive…but I’m struggling to come up with a reason for the change.
I really wish the refs were mic’d up like rugby so we knew how he came to that decision.
No doubt id still be annoyed but it’s be nice to see the thought process.
“Good process boys”
Feel any better? Yeah… I didn’t either
What comes up must come down, I guess
It’s fucking bullshit! I’m not a Newcastle fan and don’t care what the result was but that decision was ridiculous. Same as the Fulham game last night and so many decisions this season in the Prem as well as Europe. it’s becoming unbearable. I hate it and it’s putting me off watching football
Hurts doesn’t it.
100% penalty
I’m watching the CBS post match show and the Referee rules expert is saying the IFAB rules don’t account for the deflection any longer. So the fact it comes off his chest first doesn’t matter.
Actually, UEFA’s rules for this season actually clarify that it’s not a penalty if it comes off another part of the player.
Rules as they are it’s clear as day that’s no handball. Any decent ref should be able to give that.
Stinks of ucl drama conjuring, no way on earth it’s a pen and that’s from a liverpool fan.
To provide a further unbiased perspective, it’s almost as daft as the pen given to us against Tottenham in the CL final. It’s bullshit.
The constant changing of the rules and lack of consistency is something I really hate. I don’t even attempt to keep up now but it means fans and pundits are fighting an uphill battle every step of the way.
It doesn’t matter if they do or not. The IFAB rules state it is only a hand ball if the players arm has made their body unnaturally bigger. This means to justify this penalty the referee has to be saying that Tino’s arm movement is clearly and obviously (VAR) not justified by the fact he is running. So the way his arm is has to not be considered a natural way to run. Which begs the question, how the fuck should a player run?
Referee screwed up big time. That ball would only not touch his arm if he was an amputee in that situation. Ridiculous
What we need to do then is sew the arms, into the top. That’s the only way to stop these ridiculous handballs as the refs and association are clearly ill equipped to deal with this
It sucks when every game is decided by weak fouls.
It’s annoying when Refs let you down…