• surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    This isn’t about removing people from society. It’s about the practice of using them to perform free labor.

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      10 months ago

      Theres an argument to be made that by extracting a useful measure of work from them and mitigating the costs of jailing them it reduces the drain of an effective criminal justice system. But of course capitalism takes it to an absurd place where for profit prisons influence judges to impose harsher sentences and it becomes a corrupt shitshow.

      There is a lot of ways it could be implemented ethically, but they would cost more and benefit the powerful less so they wont do it.

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          10 months ago

          I said ETHICALLY voluntarily entering into their work programs that offer a reduction in sentence or better conditions is not slavery.

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            10 months ago

            ETHICALLY it’s not volunteering if it’s coerced, and I can’t think of many things more coercive than the promise of more prison.

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              10 months ago

              Its not the promise of more prison, its an offer of less prison. The difference between coercion and incentive. The issue is if a sentence of 5 years would become a sentence of 3 courts start making the sentence 7 so they get 5 years of work or if they degrade prison conditions intentionally to force inmates towards the work programs.

              It also would hinge on the “work” being something worthwhile and skill building, not just assembly line work for big corporations looking to save a buck because inmates are cheaper than machines.

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                10 months ago

                Its not the promise of more prison, its an offer of less prison. The difference between coercion and incentive.

                No. There’s a distinction but not a difference.