Of course I’m not but I’m also not surprised that its happening after Oct 7. I think there should be an immediate ceasefire, from both sides, and then hash out some kind of diplomatic compromise. Not up to me though
I would also like a cease fire. Or truce. An armistice or something that creates a short term and then a long term peace where the Palestinians can have the freedoms that the Israelis have. Though that may be too much to ask.
I can’t explain Hamas’ thinking for the actions of Oct. 7th. But I can see, if we work your analogy, that they didn’t just go out to poke a bear. Rather, the bear has been menacingly hovering over Palestinians after coming into the home and swiping at them for decades. They can either die slowly doing nothing, or fight back knowing that they can be morally injured. Meanwhile, all your neighbors are saying you should let the bear live peacefully in your home. In fact, the city council made a plan for that to happen. Enen your friends are like, “The bear isn’t that bad.” So you fight back. And your friends aren’t on team bear anymore. And some neighbors are like “WTF bear!” And none of that happens without knifing the bear.
I mean I would love for a Genocide to stop happening from a Setteler colonial nation, who seems hell bent on the extermination of a multi-religious group of people,(because yes there where and are palistianian jews) can you please set that up?
Yeah, yeah we’d rather kill all Palestinians, sure. Cause Jews are so evil forcing their religion and culture on everybody else, killing and beheading people in the name of their god in a war against democracy, liberalism, equal rights and “the west”.
I. want. pro Palestinians to explain why they think Israel wants to exterminate Palestinians while ignoring Hamas’s slogan for the eradication of Israel and Jews. It’s reverse psychology right? If we would say that we want to erase Gaza then you’d believe we have good intentions, right?
no Isnt’real started it when they where doing the slow genocide, you cannot blame an opressed group for fighting their opression. your poking the bear analigy in no way holds up. Isn’treal was not minding its buisness it was before the opporation still activly genoicing the palistinians.
Yes please. Otherwise it’s cringy. Nobody is “genociding” your precious Palestinians man. It was founded for Jews to have a safe place. But it’s kinda hard when all Muslim countries surrounding it keep poking it and getting their asses kicked. Hey if we wanted it to be fair there should be as many Christian countries as Muslim and Jewish and Buddhist and atheist etc. countries. But unfortunately Jews have been “genocided” for thousands of years and they only have one tiny country to call home in a sea of Arab.
Look man, I have no care about being “cringy” I think your complet lack of human empathy or geoplolitical understanding is cringe, but that is not the reason I am arguing.
No the reason Isn’treal was founded (yes I am doubling down on it) was a fuffilment of Zionism, at the time was seen as a deeply anti-semetic idea, and it arguably still is, it is we do not want the Jews near us, Their only argument for it is that the tora talked about it their, and may I point out that it is rediculous that we would use a holy book as justification for kicking people who where living in an area already out of their homes. Palistine already existed as the Palistinian Mandate, it was a mandate under the UK as a comprimise after WW1 for the dissilusion of the Ottoman empire, between self determination of the locals, and the empire building of the great powers of the time, so the idea being is it would be the UK’s in name only. Isn’treal soon after they took over the Mandate of Palistine, did the Nakba, removal of all political rights and posessions, and forced migrations into the gettos, massicers and killings, destruction of importion cultrual and comunity sights, and this, Fimbulwinter, is why their neighbors dislike them, this event right here,
If you are curious the reason why there are so many isalmic nations in the area, we can look at the ottoman empire, I also want to point out that their are 0 Athiest nations, a large amount of Christian nations.
So yes Isn’treal has been genocidal from day one, you can even ask the first person they asked to be president Albert Einstine who refused on the basis of the being genocidal.
Hey man, your reason and logic aren’t going to hold up to the Qatari and Iranian Propaganda. Doesn’t matter that one side rejected the deal offered at the start, doesn’t matter that one side refuses to acknowledge the other sides existence. This is the time when people can shit on Jews, err I mean Zionists and feel good about themselves.
The oppressor narrative is pretty hilarious when you put it into the context of a simple map showing Arab countries vs non Arab countries in the region. Next we’ll start hearing about how those countries all converted without a single drop of blood LMFAO.
You either need to learn what the word literally means or you need to reread the ICJ ruling.
There’s no genocide happening. If there were, don’t you think the court would have ruled for a ceasefire or a stopage like they did in Ukraine.
You fallen for the propaganda. You’re not alone, but that doesn’t make you right.
As for Zionism being anti-Semitic, the majority of the world’s Jews would disagree with you. Zionism The goal of Jews to have self-determination. Israel provides them that. Anyway, you attempt to twist that is taking that definition away from the way it’s understood by the vast majority of non morons in this world.
They are unable to irder a cesefire as Hamas is not under their jurisdiction, what they can do, and what they did do is order Isn’treal to stop the genocide and take all mesures to prevent it from happening, that they have.
I understand what propoganda is, and I understand how you could think I have fallen for it, but what has happened is I know the Deffinition of genocide … and I have Eyes, and Ears, they both fuction, I also have a functioning brain that knows how to process information. I am starting to learn that this is a rare and scarce resource to posess.
As for the idea being anti-semetic, my claim is 1 that before the end of ww2 the idea of Zionism was heavily linked with Anti-Semitism, and 2) that as far as I can tell that has not changed significantly changed. If you would like Cambridge has an article about how there was a strong link between Zionism Anti-Semitism and Nazism. I have not seen any reason to see this as having changed. Now I apreciate your attack on my charicter and mental state of mind, but if you would like to take up the case of moron with Cambrage I would love to hear it …
Exactly, its not Israel that started this war, if you go stab a bear its not really the bears fault when it mauls you.
The bear isn’t a democratic society with moral obligations not to commit ethnic cleansing.
Do you think the history of Palestinian/Israeli relations started last October? Lmao.
Ya, the surrounding Arab Nations have been attacking Israel for nearly 80 years, and they were murdering Jews for centuries before that too.
And Israel the state has been murdering Palestinians for nearly 80 years as well.
This conflict is mentioned in the Quran, this holy war has been going on for thousands of years.
Are you comfortable with Israel killing, injuring, and destroying the homes, businesses, and communities of Gazans?
Of course I’m not but I’m also not surprised that its happening after Oct 7. I think there should be an immediate ceasefire, from both sides, and then hash out some kind of diplomatic compromise. Not up to me though
I would also like a cease fire. Or truce. An armistice or something that creates a short term and then a long term peace where the Palestinians can have the freedoms that the Israelis have. Though that may be too much to ask.
I can’t explain Hamas’ thinking for the actions of Oct. 7th. But I can see, if we work your analogy, that they didn’t just go out to poke a bear. Rather, the bear has been menacingly hovering over Palestinians after coming into the home and swiping at them for decades. They can either die slowly doing nothing, or fight back knowing that they can be morally injured. Meanwhile, all your neighbors are saying you should let the bear live peacefully in your home. In fact, the city council made a plan for that to happen. Enen your friends are like, “The bear isn’t that bad.” So you fight back. And your friends aren’t on team bear anymore. And some neighbors are like “WTF bear!” And none of that happens without knifing the bear.
We’d love to meet Hamas alone on a battlefield. Can you set it up?
I mean I would love for a Genocide to stop happening from a Setteler colonial nation, who seems hell bent on the extermination of a multi-religious group of people,(because yes there where and are palistianian jews) can you please set that up?
Nice try Ret. General Gantz! We know you’d rather push the Palestinians into the sea.
Yeah, yeah we’d rather kill all Palestinians, sure. Cause Jews are so evil forcing their religion and culture on everybody else, killing and beheading people in the name of their god in a war against democracy, liberalism, equal rights and “the west”.
who said anything about Jews, We are talking about Isn’treal here, 1) stop conflaiting the 2
second OMFG your second sentence is so ubelevably racist
Benny… c’mon my friend! We know what you want. Just say it. It’s freeing. Don’t hide behind deflection.
I. want. pro Palestinians to explain why they think Israel wants to exterminate Palestinians while ignoring Hamas’s slogan for the eradication of Israel and Jews. It’s reverse psychology right? If we would say that we want to erase Gaza then you’d believe we have good intentions, right?
Erasure of Isn’treal, a genocidal state 1) is not the eresure or genocide of Jews, and 2) is a noble and honorable goal
Oh. Ok then. I wish I had seen this comment of yours first to know to disregard anything else you say.
no Isnt’real started it when they where doing the slow genocide, you cannot blame an opressed group for fighting their opression. your poking the bear analigy in no way holds up. Isn’treal was not minding its buisness it was before the opporation still activly genoicing the palistinians.
“Isn’treal” he said while wafting up and smelling his own Cheeto farts
Look, Would you rather I use the correct name of a state that has been founded from day one on genociding the palistinians?
Yes please. Otherwise it’s cringy. Nobody is “genociding” your precious Palestinians man. It was founded for Jews to have a safe place. But it’s kinda hard when all Muslim countries surrounding it keep poking it and getting their asses kicked. Hey if we wanted it to be fair there should be as many Christian countries as Muslim and Jewish and Buddhist and atheist etc. countries. But unfortunately Jews have been “genocided” for thousands of years and they only have one tiny country to call home in a sea of Arab.
Look man, I have no care about being “cringy” I think your complet lack of human empathy or geoplolitical understanding is cringe, but that is not the reason I am arguing.
No the reason Isn’treal was founded (yes I am doubling down on it) was a fuffilment of Zionism, at the time was seen as a deeply anti-semetic idea, and it arguably still is, it is we do not want the Jews near us, Their only argument for it is that the tora talked about it their, and may I point out that it is rediculous that we would use a holy book as justification for kicking people who where living in an area already out of their homes. Palistine already existed as the Palistinian Mandate, it was a mandate under the UK as a comprimise after WW1 for the dissilusion of the Ottoman empire, between self determination of the locals, and the empire building of the great powers of the time, so the idea being is it would be the UK’s in name only. Isn’treal soon after they took over the Mandate of Palistine, did the Nakba, removal of all political rights and posessions, and forced migrations into the gettos, massicers and killings, destruction of importion cultrual and comunity sights, and this, Fimbulwinter, is why their neighbors dislike them, this event right here,
If you are curious the reason why there are so many isalmic nations in the area, we can look at the ottoman empire, I also want to point out that their are 0 Athiest nations, a large amount of Christian nations.
So yes Isn’treal has been genocidal from day one, you can even ask the first person they asked to be president Albert Einstine who refused on the basis of the being genocidal.
Hey man, your reason and logic aren’t going to hold up to the Qatari and Iranian Propaganda. Doesn’t matter that one side rejected the deal offered at the start, doesn’t matter that one side refuses to acknowledge the other sides existence. This is the time when people can shit on Jews, err I mean Zionists and feel good about themselves.
The oppressor narrative is pretty hilarious when you put it into the context of a simple map showing Arab countries vs non Arab countries in the region. Next we’ll start hearing about how those countries all converted without a single drop of blood LMFAO.
Being opposed to a LITERAL GENNOCIDE is not Qatari or Iranian propoganda, it is having a simple moral compass.
Also there is a considerable difrence between Zionists and Jews and if you do not understand that there is a problem
3rd untill fairly recently Zionism was considered anti-semetic… and it arguably is anti-semetic
4th I have heard no one say that the conversion to Islam was without wars, are you saying that we need to do a GENOCIDE to get that? really man?
You either need to learn what the word literally means or you need to reread the ICJ ruling.
There’s no genocide happening. If there were, don’t you think the court would have ruled for a ceasefire or a stopage like they did in Ukraine.
You fallen for the propaganda. You’re not alone, but that doesn’t make you right.
As for Zionism being anti-Semitic, the majority of the world’s Jews would disagree with you. Zionism The goal of Jews to have self-determination. Israel provides them that. Anyway, you attempt to twist that is taking that definition away from the way it’s understood by the vast majority of non morons in this world.
They are unable to irder a cesefire as Hamas is not under their jurisdiction, what they can do, and what they did do is order Isn’treal to stop the genocide and take all mesures to prevent it from happening, that they have.
I understand what propoganda is, and I understand how you could think I have fallen for it, but what has happened is I know the Deffinition of genocide … and I have Eyes, and Ears, they both fuction, I also have a functioning brain that knows how to process information. I am starting to learn that this is a rare and scarce resource to posess.
As for the idea being anti-semetic, my claim is 1 that before the end of ww2 the idea of Zionism was heavily linked with Anti-Semitism, and 2) that as far as I can tell that has not changed significantly changed. If you would like Cambridge has an article about how there was a strong link between Zionism Anti-Semitism and Nazism. I have not seen any reason to see this as having changed. Now I apreciate your attack on my charicter and mental state of mind, but if you would like to take up the case of moron with Cambrage I would love to hear it …
Sources https://assets.cambridge.org/97805218/83924/frontmatter/9780521883924_frontmatter.pdf https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/case-related/192/192-20240216-pre-01-00-en.pdf
Thanks man. I needed to hear that.