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- exchristian@lemmy.one
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- exchristian@lemmy.one
Faith without morality or theology, much less that “soyboy” Jesus? Sign MAGA Republicans up!
Earlier this week, Donald Trump unveiled his newest grift to squeeze money out of his cult followers: Trump-branded Bibles. Claiming the book contains the “King James version” and “also includes the Founding Father [sic] documents,” Trump promised “you have to have it for your heart, for your soul.” The screenshots of the video are funny by themselves, but I highly recommend watching the ad Trump cut for these Bibles. Trump radiates total contempt for Christianity.
This is Trump in his angry-bored mode, letting viewers know with his listless tone and posture that he thinks all this Bible stuff is dumb. The not-at-all subtle message of the video is that Trump doesn’t believe any of this faith-in-God crap, but he definitely believes in using Christian identity as a weapon to make money and dominate his foes.
Many Trump opponents on social media replied with video clips underscoring how Trump may be the single most ignorant person in the country about the contents of the Bible.
I think America as a whole needs to come to serious questions about our relationship with religion and our nation. At this point it is clear that christians of most denominations in our country, even Catholics, are struggling to separate their religious beliefs from nationalism. And it’s getting worse. It got easier to see as I began intentionally dechristianizing my paganism.
To put it bluntly, the difference between how many American christians treat the founding fathers and how many Catholics treat the saints is smaller than many would like to acknowledge. They don’t want to hear that these men were flawed humans whose ideas had problems and they knew it and that they knew they’d be damned by their sins against humanity. They want to treat noted deist Thomas Jefferson as though the was Thomas aquinas and fully sanctified. The American civil religion is killing Christianity
I get tired of the argument from conservatives that the US was founded on Christian ideals, because it wasn’t. Instead it was designed to resemble Christianity, much like how Christmas co-opted Saturnalia. The US Civic religion was meant to bring together disparate groups of people with a common belief system. At some point I think this religion actually replaced Christianity in the US. If those J6 rioters had looked up they would’ve seen the Apotheosis of Washington and realized that’s who they are actually worshipping.
I don’t even know how much they intended for it to become a replacement religion. These were enlightenment philosophers. It was their grandchildren forming a religion around it. A secular nation building monuments to its models makes a certain sense, but they become deified. And as you say we sit in the shadow of statues of our fellow humans.
And the thing is I’m not even immune to all this. I live in fear of American nationalism but by fuck sometimes I still find myself appealing to the authority of men who I believe to be genuinely monstrous. I still struggle to remove Lincoln from his pedestal.
That’s fantastic and absolutely correct.
You may be a pagan, but that’s one of the best Christian sermons I’ve read in a while.
Thanks, I’m catholic raised and educated and had a childhood priest who was very much like Sazed and encouraged me to think for myself. Christianity is the religious water we swim in and air we breathe and in that it becomes nothing but a symbol of in group status. Turning the other cheek goes from a command from one’s god on how to live your life to a platitude like a penny saved is a penny earned. And by that means with the justification of sola fide and sola gratia and a handful of calls to violence, a religion that can demand radical pacifism eventually finds its way to ripping the tongues out of the living skulls of those who profess our non belief. Christianity when it holds the power of the state has never been a religion of peace because by handing it the power to do violence those who wish to do violence celebrate this justification and warp it to whatever ends justify it. The American civil religion is one manifestation of this but it wasn’t the first. And my religion is no better on that front. Eventually the religion falls to the power it holds.
And these people don’t even understand that they are apostates as much as I am. We have all rejected the teachings of Christ. But I rejected them knowingly, I didn’t buy it and found my way to a religion that spoke what my soul had ached to hear.
And I should be clear here, when I call the founding fathers deists I don’t mean it as the same as the deists of today. Deism of the time was a hedging of one’s words against religious violence. To deny the Christian god outright was not safe even when you were founding a nation. The professions of belief under duress no matter how mild cannot be taken as certain though we also cannot boldly assume they’re not true either.
Indeed, Christianity was never meant to have power. Christ laid his power down in order to found the religion itself. The progenitor of Christianity—ancient Judaism—was the religion of a nation hemmed in on all sides by enemies, always on the ropes, often carried away to captivity. It is constructed upon a trust in God, not earthly power; and so when it has earthly power, the entire foundation crumbles.
It’s been remarkable to me how spiritually valuable Mistborn is. I guess I’m not alone.