This conversation is held daily over in the echo chamber known as !conservative@lemm.ee
Careful, winning an argument with a mod earns a free lifetime ban.
Careful, winning an argument with a mod earns a free lifetime ban.
So just like the old subreddit then? Weird how that piece of culture sticks with them.
The difference is that on Reddit I got suspended from the entire site for “report abuse” because I (correctly) reported misinformation in r/conservative and it hurt the snowflake mods’ fee-fees.
In other words, Lemmy is structurally superior because there are no fascist admins with the power to ban you from the entire network.
Lmao, I reported genocidal comments in r/worldnews and was site banned for the same reason.
I had 4 reports total, 2 were acted on and the other 2 were pretty blatant calls to violence.
It’s actually what made me quit Reddit.
For my “worldnews” ban, I called someone out for ONLY posting pro-israel content, from biased Israeli media sources, and how every comment under all their posts that disagreed were downvoted into oblivion 😅
The upvote/downvotes for my comment were shifting by dozens of votes in both directions for DAYS. It was hilarious
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Conversations like this make the whole Internet feel like a shithole now.
It’s funny that you call us tankies when it’s Democrats and Republicans who gladly support a trillion and a half dollars a year being shipped off to war.
Idk if it is just me but lemmy has appeared to have a massive right wing shift, at least a huge influx of liberals unable to have a conversation without blindly slinging accusations. A lot of people on lemmy now unable to comprehend unhappiness with the system, singing praises to the status quo and woefully inadequate reforms at best. Welcome to election season I guess.
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Site bans don’t carry the same weight here though. You get site banned, you can still be on all the other sites. With Reddit, a site ban means you can’t access the whole network.
Meanwhile I got no questions asked appeal denied lifetime banned from Reddit for saying “I should totally be allowed to punch Nazis”.
I always mentally append “Nazi sympathizers” to reddit now…
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Careful, winning an argument with a mod earns a free lifetime ban.
Im gonna speedrun a ban rq
Tell them I sent you. That’ll probably be enough to get you banned for “Ban Evasion” because they think somebody’s running a sock puppet thing or whatever. I don’t know, I was permanently banned for that reason when I pointed that Obama actually WASN’T separating children from their parents under a blanket policy at the border. Being right really triggers them.
20 minutes from my first post there LMAO
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When you’re wrong as often as they are, it must get tiring
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“Trump sucks, Bush sucks, Regan sucks.”
Al Gore won
Ha, awesome. They’ll be deleted when you’re banned but I like your enthusiasm! +1 to each and every one of them if I could. After all, I’m banned too.
Heh, 24 hours, they let you off easy
It’s full of bad faith arguments, putting rules before humanity, the strictest possible interpretation of those rules, and they LOVE to put words in your mouth or waste your time asking for resources that they won’t read and will just respond “What are you even talking about?” because they’ve already moved the goal posts. Their newest mod spent his first hour as a mod getting in fights about Hunter Biden’s laptop and is so vehemently against tax increases because he’s one of the rich whose taxes would probably go up. He’ll gladly tell you that the rich are already paying TOO MUCH and they wouldn’t benefit from paying more.
But, hey, at least they ban the R word and homophobia.
They should scuttle back to Truth Social or X. It’s pretty obvious their ideas aren’t welcome here. Comments, posts, anything with a lick of conservative coding to it is downvoted heavily. But they tell themselves it’s a few bad actors following them around. Fucking narcissists.
I can understand conservatism at a base level. While it’s not something I agree with, I can see why people would lean towards it, and respect that people have different political beliefs.
However, as someone in Europe…what most Americans believe is conservatism would be very right-wing anywhere else in the developed world. If anything, many conservatives in Europe are at odds with the rise of the right, as populism has pushed traditional conservatism out of the conservative parties. In the UK, Boris Johnson literally kicked many conservatives out of the conservatives for not backing him on a Brexit vote, leaving the current PM Rishi Sunak looking at an election wipeout AND basically no MP’s remaining that believe in what the party was originally about.
I feel for those that have lost their party, because it basically means that the likes of Trump (win or lose) will likely mean few people that can continue their beliefs in their primary party.
I don’t feel sorry for the people who “lost” their party. To start, it was never a good party to begin with and for the final nail in the coffin, they didn’t fucking fight very hard to not lose it, did they?
Why even go to any conservative board? Same for the tankie boards. It’s just madness in there
To break up the echo chamber. To me, silence is acceptance and downvoting their posts as I scroll by doesn’t feel like enough.
You’re throwing a bleach wipe into a portopotty. Is it really making that pile of shit any cleaner?
Well you’re certainly not
I am certainly not no. I just don’t spend time in the reservoir of a portopotty
My sanity is limited.
It’s an echo chamber filled with snowflakes over there. You’re not allowed to challenge their fee-fees.
Echo chambers don’t end well. But they need to be ended.
Being banned from a conservative zone is like a mark of quality humanship.
Except Lemmy seems to have just as many insane extreme “leftists” and tankies that also “both sides” everything.
I can still remember how the news in fucking Germany changed. Suddenly, once Biden was in office, we didn’t get US politics in our evening news multiple times per week anymore. The United States became silent again.
Make America Boring Again
I long for the days when I thought government was boring and not worth my time. I know too much now too go all the way back, but it’s refreshing to have someone just quietly running the nation without starting a shitstorm every time their ego gets a little bit bruised.
It was always worth your time. The whole boomer mentality of not talking about politics is how we got into this mess.
But I’m glad you’re with us now. The sane need all the help we can get.
I totally agree, I was just a dumb kid at the time
I didn’t vote in Bush v Gore. I remember asking a friend because I didn’t know the difference anyway.
The whole boomer mentality of not talking about politics is how we got into this mess.
It’s part of it, but the bigger problem is that 99% of voters are content to just vote for their team color no matter how their legislator votes.
There isn’t enough real accountability, and therefore, no impetus for meaningful change.
We need to elect PhDs who have proven intellectual rigor and base decisions off data. The current setup is nothing more than a soap opera ran off corporate donations.
We need to elect PhDs who have proven intellectual rigor
You want Jordan Peterson? Because that’s how you get Jordan Peterson.
Not sure who that is but after a quick google I believe I understand your point. My idea that I’m trying to get across is that politicians are obsolete, we need PhDs who specialize is the dynamic systems involved in governing and balancing the many needs of the public. The current model promotes politicians who favor power and money / those who fund them. Throw in an uneducated public or the hyper-focused capitalist and trump is what you get. We’re not heading in the right direction with the current model.
No, what we need is for all politicians to have served as teachers, professional childcare providers or medical professionals for at least five years before they can run for federal or state office.
I’m ready to get past trump so we can stop talking about trump. His cluster B narcissism is loving all this attention. Can’t wait to never hear about the fucker
First we gotta make sure he isn’t president again. Or else it’ll be a long time before anyone will be able to forget him.
Father Time is our best friend
Father cholesterol ahould be, time is taking too long to show up to the party.
No, it isn’t. Kissinger lived to be 100.
I’m planning a party the day he dies, but before/after that, I’m down to never hear his name again.
I’d also love to never hear about him again.
Sadly, I’m pretty sure he’s going to win in November.
Yes OK, but apart from all that, what has Biden ever done?
Reminds me of Monte pythons the life of Brian
Apparently he personally killed thousands of Palestinian babies. /s
He mAdE tHe pRiCe oF cHeeSe Go uP!
biden sitting in the office, twiddling the “cheese price” knob and giggling to himself
That’s why the cheesemakers are blessed, so that they’ll increase production which will result in lower cheese prices across the board.
This video is about 2020 in general, but it really encapsulates the news style Trump fostered. Just a firehose of garbage that overwhelms the senses. And it’s only gotten worse.
I believe Steve Bannon’s quote was, “flood the zone with shit.” News is by definition, new, so if you never give people a chance to talk about what happened 5 hours ago, nobody is ever pissed off for the same reason.
“flood the zone with shit.”
This is pretty much just how US media has always worked.
no, it absolutely is not.
this is a new thing, which really started with 9/11.
this is a new thing,
I guess you don’t remember the garbage they were peddling in US media back in the 80s and 90s?
From wikipedia:
First presented in their 1988 book Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media, the propaganda model views corporate media as businesses interested in the sale of a product—readers and audiences—to other businesses (advertisers) rather than the pursuit of quality journalism in service of the public. Describing the media’s “societal purpose”, Chomsky writes, “… the study of institutions and how they function must be scrupulously ignored, apart from fringe elements or a relatively obscure scholarly literature”. The theory postulates five general classes of “filters” that determine the type of news that is presented in news media. These five classes are: ownership of the medium, the medium’s funding sources, sourcing, flak, and anti-communism or “fear ideology”.
It did intensify after 9/11 - but it was only an intensification of what was already there.
ah, I suppose I’ll concede - I was referring to the 24/7 flood of shit (which was a distinct change in intensification of the flood), but you were just meaning a flood of shit.
It’s an interesting quesiton. I would argue the launch of USA Today followed relatively closely by Fox News is what started it.
many people weren’t around then, 11-9 was more than 20 years ago
Many were, though. And they’re telling you that’s what happened.
I honestly don’t get the hate against Biden. From what I’ve seen, he’s old and he’s done a whole lot of good, more than the average democratic president.
Him being the choice over Trump should be an obvious, nearly anyone over Trump is the better choice, so what the hell is wrong with these people wanting to vote trump or not vote at all just to stick it to Biden?
There’s other good answers here, but there’s a more basic one.
Biden simply doesn’t have the charisma of Obama or the outlandishness of Trump. The reason he was an effective leader in the Senate was because of his ability to coordinate people and get shit done.
It’s what he’s done as President as well. It’s good organizational leadership, but it isn’t flashy.
Two reasons. First, there’s GOP just blanket hating on anything without their party’s Seal of Approval, sometime posing as democrats.
Second, it’s in the nature of progressives to want something better. To point out that, while [thing] may be OK, it could be improved, even in small ways. So, while you’re comparing Biden and Trump, they’re comparing Biden with some Platonic ideal President. Most of them will, when it comes to the actual ballot, and they have to choose between the two actual candidates, vote against Trump, but they’ll grouse about it. The others probably weren’t going to get off the couch for anyone, anyway.
They’re angry and justify to avoid challenging their own worldview. Apart from general evil, that basically sums it up. To expand: Plenty of them are convinced what they are doing is right. They legitimately believe they are on the right side. We don’t really see this because we aren’t constantly soaking up the same news every single day. We aren’t surrounded by people parroting false truths without a check (though we are in our own nodes), and we challenge one another’s beliefs, something people leaning left tend to do. For the rest it is about hurting others. A much smaller percentage could be convinced they’re wrong and just haven’t found a strong enough reason to challenge what they believe in.
None of this is good. Though we will gain the most ground by attempting to be understanding and being firm whenever needed.
i honestly don’t get the hate against drumpf, isn’t the us a fascist state already?
moon logic from lemmy.ml users as expected
i honestly don’t get the hate against drumpf
We know you don’t. Authoritarian sycophants like you love people like him.
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Look at all these fucking Russian/MAGA trolls in the comments trying to play a “both sides” thing.
I was there. I lived through both. You can go fuck yourself. Like trump.
There’s a visibly coordinated effort to trash Biden and/or democrats on lemmy. The commentary is all the same. They use some form of “both sides” blaming both democrats and republicans for being awful while attacking voting for either. They focus hard on Israel and call Biden “Genocide Joe” or some similar derogatory term. Overall, they always pick at Biden’s policy completely devoid of nuance while never discussing Trump’s policies past or planned. I got several posts removed from /world calling out such similar comments.
And it’s always either lemmygrad or Lemmy.ml
as expected, socialists and communist can’t and won’t tolerate the existence of a fascist state
Self proclaimed communists who support authoritarianism are either wildly propagandized or flat out shills
And yet China and Russia are facist states
Neither of those countries are fascist.
Go to China and talk about tiananmen square or go to Russia and oppose the invasion of Ukraine. You’ll be locked up instantly.
Conversely, every single time someone makes a legitimate criticism of Biden or the Democratic establishment (and there are many to be made), someone dismisses it as “both sides”.
Democrats are undoubtedly better than Republicans. Biden is undoubtedly better than Trump. Both parties are still corrupted by mega-donors and entrenched elitism.
I have no problem with legitimate criticism. There’s plenty to criticize. However, when that criticism is derogatory, often baseless, and comes with the aforementioned attacks on voting, you bet your *** that there was nothing constructive about it.
The only people propping up their argument these days with “both sides” are the willfully uneducated and the conservatives.
I’m willfully educated and a Bernie Democrat, and I’ve been accused of making “both sides” arguments many, many times. It’s almost a guarantee that it will come out in response to any criticism of Democrats.
I don’t disagree about disengenuous conservatives making bad equivalency or “uni-party” arguments. However, it’s also true that the establishment consensus across both parties is very much outside the needs and desires of mainstream Americans.
I’m just pointing out of that it’s really easy to accidentally throw the baby out with the bathwater, and it’s not in the long term interests of the Democratic party to derail serious criticism.
Show us this “serious criticism”. It needs to be:
- sourced, or very well established facts, i.e. winner of an election (not including The Big Lie of course)
- longer than one paragraph
- have an original point
Bernie Bros are a thing. Not that you’re a Bernie Bro, just that - Trump-supporting Bernie people most definitely exist and are famous for crapping in threads. As a Bernie person myself, I don’t mean offense, I’m saying it’s easy to say “hey i’m a progressive, but Biden sucks” and that’s actually what we’re calling out here. That’s a russian troll mainstay. Actual reasoned criticism is . . . rare at best.
Bernie Bros are a thing.
Please try and apply your criteria to that statement. Write it up with multiple paragraphs with ample citations, add something original to it, then, frankly, shove it up your ass.
Here’s a record of all things Biden… https://twitter.com/PushBidenLeft
lmao, genocide joe shills, i hope trump wins…
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That’s the thing, Trump did accomplish something - he showed that radicalism in a position like the president is possible. One can act like an autocrat and actually get things done. He showed that being cut throat to accomplish your political ends is possible even when in power.
Obama had a chance to put in a second Supreme Court Justice near the end of his second term, but decided it was too close to the election and wouldn’t be fair to the democratic process… Then came Trump. Trump’s accomplishment was showing the world what radical rightwing politics could do.
Now we have imitators around the world and new strains of fascism.
Many on the left feel like similar is in order on the left. So don’t blame the tankies, as they’re as much a product of the times as anything else… And it’s quite easy to want a radical leader when it’s this obvious that the system is no longer efficient at serving the will of the people… Or should I say, the will of the left.
RIP Bernie Sanders’ presidential run. Hopefully we’ll get someone similar, but we won’t get there without making the demand clear as possible.
You are absolutely right.
It’s laughable that Democrats pretend to be powerless when they held the presidency and Congress for two years. I’m not a Trump supporter, but he was living proof that the president can (at least to a degree) achieve what they promise if they’re willing to fight for it.
There were several good things he did for the wrong reasons, in fact, like pulling the US out of Syria.
he showed that radicalism in a position like the president is possible
Please learn what the word “radical” means.
You can also get your posts removed for bringing up this tactic.
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I’m pretty old. Biden has been the best president of my lifetime.
He should be viewed as a national hero for beating Donnie in 2020 and making it stick, which was probably harder than it looked. The US President starting a coup has lots of strings to pull.
I genuinely think that the only reason so many people aren’t able to admit that is because of Gaza.
I deduct credit from a President if they are primarily fixing problems that they themselves caused or greatly assisted in creating throughout their previous political career. In Biden’s case, that means that he is unlikely to get better than absolute neutral due to his incredibly long history of selling out the American people.
I will not give Biden an 11th hour passing grade just because he is up against Trump, he doesn’t deserve to be graded on a curve.
Eh, this is a bit too “moving the finish line” for me. In a super long political career, attitudes shift. I don’t think you can judge someone for, say, cheering about Don’t Ask Don’t Tell (a win for it’s time, but now seen as a crappy half measure) as long as their attitudes shifted. That’s kind of how politics works. 100 years from now current liberal attitudes will be looked down on because they aren’t progressive enough. That’s sort of the definition of progress.
So if I spend my life being a right bastard, like 50 straight years of kicking dogs, stealing from old ladies, being a slum lord and extorting people, breaking people’s legs in mafia style protection rackets, dumping toxic industrial byproducts into rivers, and using my wealth and power to keep and enforce “sundown laws”, but then in my 60s open an animal shelter, fund bingo nights and retirement centers, set up community reinvestment grants, sponsor efforts to get the wetlands to get cleaned up as a Superfund site, and get diversity and equality training implemented for the police department, would I then be considered to be a good person because my attitude shifted? The thousands of people I hurt and potentially indirectly killed over those 50 years don’t count against the good I am now doing?
Even simpler, if I steal and destroy your car, causing you to lose your job because you don’t have transportation which then causes you to lose your home, should I then be praised for giving you a nicer brand new car a year later?
Sticking to politics in case that’s the only place this kind of behavior gets a pass, what if someone didn’t cheer for Don’t Ask Don’t Tell but instead had sponsored bills undoing limitations or bans on gay conversion therapy. Does later supporting a bill making conversion therapy illegal undo the suicides and trauma they inflicted because their apparent attitude has changed? Are they now equal to the person who spent their entire career pushing for gay rights, because this person supported strengthening of domestic partnership laws instead of marriage equality 20-30 years ago? They both support gay rights now, so is saying that the first person is doing the bare minimum and shouldn’t really be called an ally “moving the finish line”?
I think Obama was better in charisma and speeches. Which is motivating. But Biden is damn good.
The Biden Administration maybe. Joe can’t even find his way to stage left
I totally agree, but I also think that every president for the last 50+ years would have walked out of office and into a prison cell in a just world. Judged in that context, Biden looks pretty good.
Also, a ham sandwich would have beaten Trump in 2020. I know this because half the Biden supporters on Reddit were constantly paving over Biden’s deep flaws by pointing out that they would pick a ham sandwich over Trump. I have no idea why it was always a ham sandwich. All Biden had to do was hide in his basement and not say anything mind-blisteringly stupid. That and avoid catching COVID from Trump on the debate stage.
You’re quite literally an idiot if this isn’t disingenuous
This guy LOVES a good old fashioned genocide.
As someone who takes crazy pills every day, I am highly insulted that you associate me with the Trump administration.
Furthermore, my nipples are in tune with God and tweaking them will grant you his holy message.
I think the middle person is living on the military grade hopium where there’s bound to be a revolution that solves everything, it’s just around the corner too. So why bother trying to get small wins or even slow down the worsening conditions. Revolution will fix everything.
Any day now…
Everybody thinks they’ll come out on top after a “revolution” but they almost certainly will not. Such chaos is far more likely to help than hurt fascists. That’s kind of their jam.
See: Iran.
AAAAnd China. The progressive communist revolution was pioneered by young and ambitious urban intellectuals to fight against warlords, Foreign imperialism, and old China; later also the attempted dictatorship of Chiang Kai-shek. Unfortunately, their hard work was eventually hijacked by conservatives and dictators.
A bit of fun fact: after the communist revolution and cultural revolution, China was slowly stepping towards democracy, through internal CCP reform:
called for the end of bureaucracy, centralisation of power as well as patriarchy, proposing term limits to the leading positions in China and advocating the “democratic centralism” as well as the “collective leadership”.
Deng emphasized that the Constitution must be able to protect the civil rights of Chinese citizens and must reflect the principle of separation of powers; he also described the idea of “collective leadership” and championed the principle of “one man, one vote” among leaders to avoid the dictatorship of the General Secretary of CCP.
Unfortunately, the pro-democracy crowd lost, because they sided with Tiananmen square student protest. Their defeat eventually leads to the Tiananmen Square massacre. And the political power fallen into the hand of the conservatives.
after the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests and massacre, many leading reformists including Zhao and Bao were removed from their posts, and the majority of the planned political reforms (after 1986) ended drastically. Left-wing conservatives led by Chen Yun, President Li Xiannian and Premier Li Peng took control
The pro-democracy leaders were all weakened or arrested after Tiananmen Square massacre:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhao_Ziyang
lost power for his support of the 1989 Tian’anmen Square protests.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hu_Qili
he was purged for his sympathy toward the student protesters and his support for General Secretary Zhao Ziyang’s opposition to the use of armed force.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bao_Tong
During the 1989 Tian’anmen square protests, he was one of the very few Chinese senior officials to express understandings with the demonstrating students, which led to his arrest shortly before the June Fourth incident.
So there might be a bizarre alternative world, where Tiananmen Square protest did not happen and China is now a democracy…
The bizarre alternative world isn’t even where the protests didn’t happen, it’s where agents of foreign governments and local fanatics didn’t hijack/build them up with the explicit goal of producing as much bloodshed as possible.
I was hoping tankies won’t have a conspiracy theory about one of the most tragic event of human kind, but I guess I overestimated humanity.
These were well-educated, progressive, and ambitious students, passionated about a brighter future for China. They share the same vision and drive as the founding members of CCP. And they are more passionate about communism than all the tankies I have seen, and willing to sacrifice their life for their admirable goals.
Their requirements has always been simple and clear: build a progressive democratic government in Hu Yaobang’s vision, and purge the conservatives like Li Peng from CCP, which is founded upon a progressive vision of China. Thus, they are needlessly and brutally murdered by conservatives who seek to stabilize their own power.
If you work for the CCP, I doubt I will be able to project any sense into your brain. I can only hope these word might be helpful for readers of your comments to gain some context.
Okay, I guess Chai Ling never existed and the multiple admitted connections to western regime change programs of three letter agencies are all cpc propaganda?
It’s one thing to say that the events are tragic and that it would have been good if dengist students could have implemented reforms, a sentiment I mostly agree with, it’s another entirely to suggest that there was no manipulation towards violence by people either directly or indirectly tied to western intelligence operations.
E: autocorrect dengist -> dentist where’s my denguin holding a pick hexbear emoji?
There are only so many ways to get the kind of society that works, and far too many ways for it top go wrong. It’s kind of a crazy idea to think that burning it down and starting over would be beneficial.
Revolution will fix everything.
Me, living in Paris in 1926, excited about how the new commune movement will fix everything permanently
Me, moving to Shanghai two years later, because that are the odds of this happening twice?
Also known as accelerationism, yeah
This whole debate misses the point entirely. You only vote “for Biden” in the symbolic sense. On a rational level, it’s a binary choice: Biden or Trump, and having to check a box next to one of them is just a procedure.
For example, if the ballot just said "Trump: yes[ ] don’t care[ ] no[ ] ", that’s for all practical purposes the exact same thing as “Trump[ ] 3rd Party[ ] Biden[ ]”. The boxes have exactly the same effect in both cases. The more to the left you check, the more likely Trump will be president again.*
Yet I gotta imagine, many if not most of these “won’t vote Biden” people would have a much easier time picking the rightmost box on the first ballot than the second, because they refuse to vote “for Biden” on some sort of moral grounds. But that’s purely theatrical and immaterial to the task at hand. It’s like refusing to sacrifice a pawn in chess to obtain a checkmate. While it’s admirable that your moral principles wouldn’t permit ordering a lowly pawn to sacrifice itself, that’s not actually what’s happening: you’re just taking an action that increases your odds of winning a game.
Likewise, when you check the box next to Biden, you’re not actually voting for Biden. You’re voting for not Trump, which (because of a different election - the primaries that that Biden already won) happens to result in Biden serving a second term. If you want someone other than Biden to be the non-Trump candidate, that was a whole different election.
*The only difference is that in the second example, it would raise the odds of the 3rd party candidate winning in a hypothetical universe where a 3rd party has a chance, but that’s clearly not the universe we live in. If you wanna live in that universe, election reform such as runoff voting is a prerequisite. But that’s a whole other topic, to put it mildly.
Are there any lemmy servers that consist of more moderate and centrist or even moderate right-leaning people? I don’t like solely participating in the echo chambers, because if you don’t think like the liberal hivemind you get insulted repeatedly with no meaningful discussion, and the talking points are combative instead of philosophical or thought provoking. Surely there are less extremist communities on lemmy somewhere?
The problem is I want a home feed where left-wing political stances and memes aren’t crammed into every possible row, and lemmy users seem to spend significant amounts of brain power making anti-right wing memes and whatnot, so instead of having useful meaningful entertaining content it’s just political garbage and left-wing propaganda. Might have to just make my own instance and somehow filter out the useless political rhetoric noise I guess.
I sincerely doubt you have much to add that is philosophical or thought provoking, if this (honestly tired old image) was enough to make you respond like anyone who criticizes Trump, or attacks bad takes about how both sides are bad, makes everyone here extremists. And now you must flee to a safe haven where nobody does that? Is that not… Seeking to participate in a different echo chamber? Do you not see how ridiculous that is?
Not participating so much as reading the hivemind room temp IQ drivel that usually comes with the territory is just a complete waste of time because there’s nothing interesting or valuable in any way. I’m still on the hunt for better circles as is tradition. Eventually I’m going to write my own javascript extension for firefox to help mitigate some of the overly politically biased posts and comments in the main feeds, which will likely have to work over time as I start building regular expression rules and whatnot and start doing weighted statistics. Might actually be a good use case to start using Python to start classification systems as I aggregate the datasets. Might even be an interesting case for machine learning. I think I might actually do that now that I think about it…
Anything from the first page should have disqualified him.
Like how do people like that exist with themselves all with coming up with an opinion and just not researching it let alone questioning it for a second just to be debased in a matter of seconds. And that’s giving them the benefit of the doubt. Deep down I think they are trolling.
I think it’s just because the media reports the negative things that happened under Trump more loudly than they reported the positive things under Biden.
Of course they are. After all the allure of spreading fake news anonymously is strong indeed. In such environment default stance is trolling and conscious effort is required to not to when there are no consequences.
they are definitely a troll and I’m with you on that. there is always a slim possibility there is someone who will read this shit and actually swallows it. So it’s exhausting when so many bots and trolls suck up time of others who are trying to run triage.
And yeah, I wish there were better and more effective consequences than ‘tell a mod’ cuz that doesn’t do shit on meta or Reddit or x
Advanced trolls are almost indistinguishable except that they seemingly drastically change opinions every other comment. Best you can do is just refute the comment as it is and quickly end it.
Just click on the username and read their comment history. It’s pretty simple.
We should train a neural network that will detect this. We have the technology. Create a profile of political views and likes of a user, and if it is too chaotic, eliminate the dissenter with a well-placed Improvised Explosive Device.
Alternatively, we can carry out a precise air strike on the subversive element. For example with a General Atomics MQ-1 Predator remotely piloted aircraft.
Like how do people like that exist with themselves
In 2016 it was reported by several places that tens of millions of Americans can’t absorb a sudden $400 expense without going further into debt. That number has grown significantly under Biden, which is why people don’t care about articulating their opinion of why he’s a bad president. (For instance, in 2023, homelessness jumped 12%)
Their lives just got harder, and that experience is all they need.
