• Barbarian@sh.itjust.works
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      Not the same person, but I’m in a similar position, just further along. Getting meat out of my diet was actually really trivial. Cheese is the big problem.

      Fully vegan when I cook at home, but vegan options in restaurants and fast food are non-existent where I live, so I have cheese whenever I eat out. I’ve also come to terms with the fact I can never be fully vegan because I have 2 cats who need their cat food.

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        Dairy contains a morphine-like substance so baby calves are drawn to it. Cheese is literally addictive.

        While many scientists believe cats to be obligate carnivores, one study attempted to show that many of the studies conducted in plant-based diets to not show any detrimental effects, when the test wasn’t conducted poorly or there was already a selection bias in place.

        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9860667/

        Just something to consider. This doesn’t cement veganism for domestic felines, but it does show that better studies need to be conducted.

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          Cheese is literally addictive

          I’m aware, but I don’t eat cheese out of choice. The times I do eat cheese are because I’m in a restaurant with family/friends and my options are being hungry the whole night, eating meat, or eating a salad with cheese in it. With those options, I take the cheese. Again, I don’t eat cheese at home.

          This doesn’t cement veganism for domestic felines, but it does show that better studies need to be conducted

          Fair enough. I’ll keep an eye out, but I’m immediately skeptical because unlike us humans, cats are naturally carnivorous.

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        Well milk is easy. Just get soy milk or almond milk as a drop-in replacement. There’s even weird ones like cashew milk. Depending on where you are at though that might be too expensive compared to dairy milk.

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          Where I live, soy milk is less than half the price of cow boob milk. Perks of living in East Asia, I guess.

          I bought a 936 mL (1/4 gallons) carton of soy milk today, and it was only about US$1.1 (NT$35). Very affordable.

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              They don’t sell milk or soy milk in gallons. The soy milk I got was 936 mL. 936 mL is 0.2472 gallons, which just so happens to be close to a quarter gallon. A quarter gallon is closer to 946 mL.

              When I wrote the previous comment, I actually thought that 936 mL was exactly 1/4 gallons, and it kind of surprised me. The tool I used to convert units rounded the result to 2 decimal places.

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                That’s even stranger! Do you have any idea why? Is there maybe a pre-metric system measurement that’s closer?

                Or maybe soy milk is just 6.4% less dense than water and it’s a kilogram

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                  I tried to look it up, but I couldn’t find any convincing answers. I did find one answer saying it has to do with the milk’s density, but the density is about 1.03 (both dairy and soy milk) and when you run the numbers you get that 936 mL is only 0.964 kg.

                  There is also no pre-metric units for volume, so that isn’t it either. Also, some other milk brands sell their milk in 930 mL, 1857 mL, 1858 mL or some other really arbitrary number.

                  My guess is that it’s close enough to a full liter so that the customers buy this thinking they got a liter of milk.

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        I live in the US, so depending on where you live these may or may not be available to you.

        Cheese for me depends on the application:

        On a pizza, I like Miyokos liquid mozzarella. I’ll often get a chain pizza with no cheese, add a little on top and bake for a bit.

        Melted in a quesadilla, etc., I’ll usually go for daiya.

        Cold on something like a burrito bowl, I like Violife or Vevan. Violife also makes a great feta.

        For parmesan and blue cheese dressing, I’ll usually go with Follow Your Heart.

        For cheese sauces and mac and cheese, I like to make cashew cheese sauce.

        My favorite non dairy for drinking and baking is oat or soy, I just like to make sure it’s not sweetened.

        I started making my own yogurt in an instant pot with cheap Asian grocery store coconut milk and vegan cultures, and it’s fantastic.

        Hope this helps!

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      I’m working my way towards it! Did a one month trial run, now I am back to my previous diet but increasing my vegan meals and decreasing my meals with animal products.

      I would welcome tips, though!

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        A fair amount of vegans might say that their experiences made them change overnight. I was not one of those people, as addiction is significant in me. When I was transitioning, I would go all in and keep abstaining from animal products as long as I could. Then I would mess up, and fall back into bad habits for a while. But the key thing that made the difference is that I never gave up. I’d track how many days I went without animal products and count that as my high score. Then when I tried again I would gamify it by being determined to get an even higher score.

        As time went on I became more skilled at cooking plant-based, which helped keep me going since the food I was eating was beginning to taste better. Likewise my palette was growing more accustomed to plant-based foods. Eventually I messed up one last time by eating some pepperoni, but the experience was different. Because I had gotten so used to eating more wholesome meals, the pepperoni was such an intense salt bomb that I found it inedible (and that’s coming from a salt-fiend).

        But the other thing that changed was in my mind. Consciously I was already well aware that vegan diets are entirely adequate nutritionally. But a lifetime of unconscious carnist societal conditioning gave me this constant feeling as if I could not survive on plants alone. That was one of the things that always got in the way - this strange feeling like I was missing something and had to eat the stuff that was missing or I would die.

        But when I bit into that pepperoni I suddenly had this calm recognition: “I don’t need this. In fact this isn’t food.”

        And things have only gotten easier over time. Hopefully this helps?