• helenslunch@feddit.nl
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    6 months ago

    Sounds like a gun owner in denial, not a reasoned point.

    Right, blaming it on denial (of…?) makes much more rational sense.

    You are the only developed western country with a problem as severe as yours.

    What a strangely specific criteria. Because every other country with similar problems can be slapped with the label of “underdeveloped”, I assume?

    You are the only one where violence, and specifically gun violence, is a leading cause of death amongst children.

    “Gun violence” is not a cause of death. Murder is.

    Do you think if they took away the guns, people would just stop being violent? Or that they would just find another tool?

    Honestly, just think about it for a minute.

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      6 months ago

      Because every other country with similar problems can be slapped with the label of “underdeveloped”, I assume?

      What countries are you thinking of?

      “Gun violence” is not a cause of death. Murder is.

      Technically no, a bullet wound is, or a stab wound, or blunt force trauma, but murder is the legal definition of a crime that involves death, circumstances, and intent.

      Do you think if they took away the guns, people would just stop being violent? Or that they would just find another tool?

      I think that they would find another tool, be forced to decide whether to commit to a close quarters fight to the death instead of sitting back and spraying from a distance, and in the vast majority of situations the overall outcome will be far less severe and easier for police and security to contain.

      Have you really thought about it?

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        6 months ago

        be forced to decide whether to commit to a close quarters fight

        Do you think this is the only alternative? Did you already forget about the mass murderer with a truck? Or a bomb? Or a lighter? Or an airplane? Or any number of dozens of other ways you can murder people without putting yourself in harm’s way?

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          6 months ago

          Outside of potentially a car or truck, all of those things take significant time and planning.

          The reality of most murders is that they do not happen when given a cooling off period. Similar to suicides, they’re often situational and in the moment.