• Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works
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    6 months ago

    So there is a statistic that 70%ish of prisoners return to prison within 5 years.

    It was one of the things that “radicalized” me when I learned it.

    • taanegl@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      It’s kind of sick and twisted. When compared to actual functioning reformist prison systems, look no further than Norway.

      During the 60s and 70s, it was the wardens that brought about the reform, because they didn’t like the way the prisoners were being treated. Several persons per room, one toilet per 6 people, etc. It was inhumane and it was the actual prison wardens who organised to fix the issue.

      Now, many years later, the Norwegian prison system is one of the most effective prison systems in the world, with a low return rate. People who suffer from mental health issues and who break the law would be treated well in Norwegian prisons, leading to a much higher chance of reform and them becoming fully employed tax payers, so it sort of pays for itself over time.

      In 2016 US police visited Norway and said “you should have a system more like ours”, and despite Norwegian police being somewhat their own boys club, a resound “hell to the no” resonated across the Norwegian landscape.

      Do you want MS-13? Because penal colonies/western goulags is how you get MS-13.