• Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    19
    ·
    3 months ago

    Already have seen this. I have seen arguments pointing out what the Nazis did to trans people, the first clinic for trans people, and the research materials on it, get met with replies that it’s revisionist, fraudulent, jewish, propaganda.

    • Lianodel@ttrpg.network
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      26
      ·
      3 months ago

      JK Rowling did that not too long ago. (She didn’t call it Jewish, but absolutely called it lies and propaganda that trans people and trans researchers were early targets for the Nazis and victims of the Holocaust.)

      I don’t say this to obsess over the Harry Potter author, but to point out that you don’t have to go cherry picking to find this shit. She’s a prominent person using her platform to spread bigotry and misinformation.

      • Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        11
        ·
        3 months ago

        oh yeah, i know about her, she is putting that stuff into the mainstream. Worst part is, she is likely so touchy about this because of her own gender identity issues that she has ignored rather than resolve.

        • Lianodel@ttrpg.network
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          3 months ago

          Yeah. I know that calling bigots secretly closeted is problematic, but IIRC she has outright said that, if she were a young person today, she would question her gender identity.

          • Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            edit-2
            3 months ago

            Oh, I am not just saying this because she is anti-trans, I am saying this because she has been speaking about her issues with gender for like 20, nearly 20, years now. The more that she came out with, the more hard line anti-trans she showed herself to be. This is probably made all the worse from her trauma from rape. But hey, I am not her psychologist.

            • Lianodel@ttrpg.network
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              3 months ago

              Totally understood, and I apologize for implying you might have. It was not my attention. I just meant that, even though it’s something I avoid jumping to conclude, it does happen, and there’s reason to believe it’s the case with Rowling. She’s got issues. It doesn’t absolve her of anything, but there’s a little pity in my condemnation.

              • Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                2
                ·
                3 months ago

                Yeah, I didn’t take that comment as accusatory, just figured I would make my position clear. There is a body of evidence that shows that the more intense someone’s homophobia is, the more likely they are to be sexually aroused by homoerotic stuff. However, this does not mean homophobes are likely to be closeted queers. The vast majority of these bigots are not, in fact, homosexuals. However, every public homophobe gets a lot of reactions suggesting they are, often even from gay people. Not great.

    • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      3 months ago

      Worth noting: a lot of the material from that German trans clinic in the 1920s-30s was destroyed by the doctors themselves. Y’know. To protect their patients from the god-damned Nazis.