My kids are 9 and 11. If they ask for something I want them to have, I get it for them. If they ask for something I don’t want them to have, I don’t get it for them.
They’re smart for their age, but they’re kids.
I think you’re torturing the metaphor a bit much. I just meant I don’t believe that Harris is going to listen to progressives on Israel. I wish she would, and I’m going to vote for her regardless because Trump would be far worse. But to say “Harris is listening” feels like an attempt to placate reasonable people who don’t want to support a genocide.
I agree that the comparison is a bit steep, but you’re the one who made it.
Also, my point is not necessarily to just give in, but that “listening” to a request may be enough for someone to do something else than what they initially intended.
Listening is far more important than obliging to any single direct action.
In any dialogue or conflict, you are achieving more both by listening and by having your opponent listen, than having either part reluctantly oblige.
Same way I listen to my kids tell me what they want from the grocery store. Maybe they get it, maybe they don’t, but it’s not a negotiation.
That changes when they get older. You eventually start listening for real because they are smarter than you are.
It’s no longer a question of if they get it, but if you get it. Please pay attention to what your children ask for.
You’re probably talking to an anti-vaxer, in which case the kids don’t get older.
My kids are 9 and 11. If they ask for something I want them to have, I get it for them. If they ask for something I don’t want them to have, I don’t get it for them.
They’re smart for their age, but they’re kids.
I think you’re torturing the metaphor a bit much. I just meant I don’t believe that Harris is going to listen to progressives on Israel. I wish she would, and I’m going to vote for her regardless because Trump would be far worse. But to say “Harris is listening” feels like an attempt to placate reasonable people who don’t want to support a genocide.
I agree that the comparison is a bit steep, but you’re the one who made it.
Also, my point is not necessarily to just give in, but that “listening” to a request may be enough for someone to do something else than what they initially intended. Listening is far more important than obliging to any single direct action. In any dialogue or conflict, you are achieving more both by listening and by having your opponent listen, than having either part reluctantly oblige.
Ah yes. voters are just unruly children.
Voters get treated like children. Did I give the impression I thought that was a good thing?
Your kids aren’t an important component to your continued employment.
Apparently the DNC doesn’t seem to think that people who oppose a genocide aren’t an important component of Harris’s victory.
I would argue that my kids have a lot to do with my continued employment, but not in any way that’s relevant to the analogy.
Imagine telling Palestinian civilians “maybe you live, maybe you don’t, it’s not a negotiation”
disgusting