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    I’ve never understood the people who seem to not get that some people actually don’t mind scanning their stuff and putting it in bags, and insist that that’s the line between what the customer does and the employee. They also used to carry your groceries to the car for you, and you can also get them to pick everything up, bag it and bring it to your car or house. It’s not like the checkout process is the special part that can’t change.

    Yeah, they want to save money by having fewer people get more customers checked out faster. I don’t really care since the part I like, getting finished at the store, happens faster.

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      I love self checkout. Conversation with strangers is difficult, slow and often not fun. Separating that aspect from checking out is the best customer service a lot of stores offer.

      Some stores near me are removing or disabling self checkout. Apparently this better serves the customer. Can’t quite see how taking away options improves things, but …

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        It doesn’t, it’s because people shoplift at self checkout all the time and the big retailers can’t figure out how to stop it. Almost every shop in my town forces you to do self checkout, they don’t even have cashiers most of the time. Last time I was at my local walmart they had like 6 self checkouts and 4 cashiers just standing there staring at everyone trying to find shoplifters. They still can’t find them though lol.

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          Well, this can’t possibly be the case. The giant corporations who assuredly only have my best interests in mind tell me it’s what I want, not what they want.

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          Which is bizarre, because shrinkage due to theft at all major retail chains is at historic lows, but they keep complaining that they can’t make any money due to rampant shoplifting. Then you look at their profits for each fiscal year and wonder what their deal is if losses due to shoplifting have never been lower and profits have never been higher?

          It’s an easy scapegoat to justify closing low performing stores. It essentially shifts the blame onto the community, rather than the greedy suits.

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      I don’t have a problem with self-check. I use it most the time because I usually have < 10 items.

      I DO have a problem with only self-check lanes being open or only ONE regular clerk check lane open. both of which happen at walfart.

      I know this because I used to work there and policy was to hire floor associates that can run a register so the store won’t need to pay for cashiers just standing around.

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        so the store won’t need to pay for cashiers just standing around.

        Aren’t walmart employees also required to stand all day? Kinda insane to me that they’re not allowed to just sit down

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          can’t say for every store, but we were told “it makes us look lazy and disinterested in being friendly or helpful to our customers”.

          typical boomer bullshit.

          they did let the little. old lady greeters use a chair, although that’s likely because of ADA compliance requirements they had to follow and not because they grew a heart.

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        I don’t think I’ve ever seen a Walmart cashier without a line. Doesn’t matter how many cashier lanes and self checkouts are open. Find it hard to belief they are ever able to just stand around.

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          that’s exactly the point. WM mgmt sees that as a win. every employee has a queue depth they can complete in x time, be it customers they help or tasks they complete.

          if you can’t complete the minimum queue depth according to WM you’re pulled up for a performance eval and eventually fired.

          Mgmt doesn’t want to hire more people because “home office” provides a bonus to mgmt to keep operation costs low. at “performing” stores this can be as much to go out and buy a new car.

          so the next time you’re waiting in line for an hour at WM ask to speak to the store mgr directly, or better yet ask for the contact details of the district mgr. enough complaints and that store is marked as “non-performant” and the store (and mgrs) will be pulled up for a performance eval.

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        They have some new AI thing watching the cameras that will make that a lot harder. Like, it wouldn’t let me scan the same item twice instead of scanning both identical items.

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    They also don’t schedule enough employees to keep the lines running quickly, they only have 2-3 lanes open most of the time when it’s busy as having another line is 2x $13-15 an hour for a bagger and a cashier. This gets people to either go to self checkout or wait forever. Naturally most people go through self checkout, which they’ll probably use as an excuse to make more self checkouts.
    (talking about the store I work at specifically, which isn’t a Walmart, but I assume Walmart does the same)

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      I REFUSE to put how many bags I took if I have to self checkout. I also buy less. in many states now there is a bag fee. if I have to scan and bag my own shit, you’re eating that cost and for not paying an extra employee to be there to help. I also don’t frequent you as often.

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        Why would you need someone to bag your shit, lol?

        That is nonexistent in my country except in the single Costco in the entire country and everyone feels pretty uncomfortable about it.

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      “go to self checkout or wait forever.”

      On the unfortunate days I have to stop at the store when myself and everyone else are getting off of work, I’ve seen the lines at self checkout as long or longer than the registers.

      I’m use a self checkout if 1) there are empty checkouts and 2) I only have enough items that I can carry. Sure - then I’m getting in and out. But if I’m pushing a cart, I’m going to a cashier.

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    I’d rather check myself out than deal with other idiots. It’s a win for my sanity.

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      I agree! I was at a Walmart one time and some chick ran out right by us at a high speed. We had no idea what was going on but apparently she was stealing. The one worker said as they walked by us “you got all these people standing around doing nothing and they couldn’t stop her?” It was a smart ass comment. Did that employee really believe that I would risk my life for Walmart, of all places? I don’t work there, I’m not security, I’m not a police officer. Not my problem.

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      have fun waiting in line i guess? while i zip through the self checkout in a fraction of the time

      also, do you live in jersey? if not, then you’re pumping your own gas, bless your heart

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      Boy, you’re not gonna be happy when you learn how food stores used to work. They’ve been offloading things labor used to do onto the customers for a century.

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      Then pay for delivery and get it right to your door…

      Cashiers and baggers are underpayed and forced to stand, if you want someone to chat to, you should pay extra. But you don’t want to pay more for groceries to pay people a living wage, the solution is to pay for delivery, sorry that still removes the ability to chat, but they aren’t obligated to, they only need to scan your groceries. Why do you think they need to do more?

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        These people being forced to stand all day in the USA is pure insanity looking from the outside.

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    I personally prefer to use the self-checkout lane because I want my groceries bagged in a specific way (raw meat in one bag, cans/bottles in another, etc.). It’s infuriating when I line up my groceries in order on the conveyor and the bagger just stuffs them in the bags randomly anyway.

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      I miss HEB sometimes back from when I was a kid. They were trained to bag things “correctly” and was one of the few places that didn’t drive my dad insane. They banned plastic bags here shortly before Covid and I have used self checkout since with the nice big reusable ones that I can fill how I want. They would barely fill one bag and then demand another or start pulling out flimsy paper bags that will tear while trying to get my groceries up the stairs. I would bring 3 and it still ended up with me re-bagging it all and dealing with them saying I didn’t have enough bags.

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    Screw Walmart. During the storms here in NC, I went there to buy some relief supplies, and it was awesome to see the whole store getting picked apart by people buying supplies to donate. What was definitely not awesome was the only 3 checkout lanes open out of the total 12, because Walmart has a 3 per employee rule and they don’t want to assign enough workers for the checkout lanes, even during times of crisis like this.

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    I’ve recently visited a grocery store in Hamburg, where you just put all your items on the self checkout counter, it detects all the prices and quantities in an instant (yes, including fruits and vegetables that require weighted!) you pay, you go. So great ! The only truly practical implementation of a self checkout, in my opinion. I’ve seen this in other types of store before (clothing) but never for groceries.

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    I wouldn’t mind if either the cost savings by the grocery store would be transparently passed on to the customer and not greedily put in own pockets OR the checkout process is like " walk through a gate, everything is self scanned due to RFID tags and you can pay immediately at a machine"

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    Personally, I’m faster and better at bagging my items. Most grocery stores don’t even bag your stuff for you anymore, so it’s actually much slower for me to wait for someone to scan my item, then slide it down the conveyor belt so I can wait for them to scan the thing that should be at the bottom of the shopping bag. Too much hassle. Yes, it’s fucking stupid that I’m essentially doing labor that someone who is actively employed could be doing, but I also don’t have all fucking day to wait in line ups.

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    Yeah, you wouldn’t want to get fired by Walmart. You’d have to go on welfa… oh.

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    My parents refused to use the self-checkout because “They take people’s jobs.”

    They were hardcore republicans perfectly happy to make sure those jobs got paid shit.

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    Recently had a support call with a woman who was complaining about our 2 factor authentication system because she could only access one web page at a time. When I asked her if she couldn’t just open a new tab, she said she was too old to learn how computers work and couldn’t do that. She went on to claim that there’s a lot of people at her level of ineptitude, and that we shouldn’t have implemented 2fa because “most people don’t have multiple monitors.”

    It was so, so hard not to throw out an OK Boomer as they proudly lectured me on the depths of their ignorance.