• Etterra@lemmy.world
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    Have you seen some of the wishy-washy mouth breathers in the “undecided” focus groups? I’m embarrassed to admit we’re the same species. The Trump cultists might be insane, brain-poisoned, sociopathic, fundamentalist idiots but at least they have the capacity to make a bad decision. The independents can’t seem to make any decision. It if they do, it’s based on some random nonsense or impulse. I dunno if they’ve got learning disorders or are just sad windsocks, but the fact that they are the ones who get to decide if America dies next month is terrifying.

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      wishy-washy mouth breathers in the “undecided” focus groups

      This website is deteriorating into Democrats insulting non-Democrats constantly.

      You’re party is simply unpopular as it caters to “moderates” and then has to spend an absurd amount of money to convince regular folks that the Democrats are the best those folks are allowed to have. No amount of memes and insults is going to change this simple truth.

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    Most people are poorer today in the day-to-day than they were 4 years ago.

    That’s why. It’s that simple.

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        American voters do seem to have very short memories.

        Even faced with actual data that indicates that the economy has consistently performed better under Democrats over the past 75 years, they still pretend that the party of the oligarchs is somehow going to solve the problems of the working class.

        Donald Trump is very open about his own anti-labor policies as an employer, yet the very people who hate being screwed over by their bosses worship him.

        I don’t understand how anyone can function with this level of cognitive dissonance.

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    In addition to all the things said elsewhere in this thread, younger demographics are less likely to engage with polling, which is likely effecting the outcome of the polls. The emails/texts/phone calls/etc just get ignored, so that leaves the older generations as the only ones who actually answer.

    I know the polls try to take that into account, but it’s never going to be possible to do so perfectly.

    So tldr: fuck the polls go vote, and make sure your friends/family votes

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        That is true, however the last few elections have seen strong increases in youth voter turnout. And that makes sense given the now broadened popularity of mail in voting, the climate crisis, etc.

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    For the same reason I got temp banned from this community. People only need to be slightly against the circlejerk to be pushed away from a community, and this creates a “well, might as well let everything burn” counter-resentment. I can’t vote in the US, but part of that reason is having prioritized society and consequences over ego and money. if I could I would vote against Trump, but it seems you guys are stuck doing it, and you reap what you sow. Stop being surprised pikachu-faced.

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    If you’re posting this right now because of recent poll data, It’s because Republican companies are creating their own polls just so that they can claim the race is closer than it is.

    Of course we don’t know who’s going to win. The election hasn’t happened yet. But any speculation about changes in the last few days should be taken with a grain of salt, because this is a playbook that was trotted out two years ago and it’s back again.

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      I don’t really understand it. I guess it’s because a close race drives turnout and they think their supporters need more encouragement than ours do?

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    Because one side wants to own the libs and that’s all they want to do. While one side is just as bad, they want to own the population to get away with crimes and the other side is never taken seriously as it’s full of gas huffing paint-chip addicts.

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    The electoral collage an years of disinformation and latent bigotry plus corporate greed screwing us all over…did I miss anything?

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    Race is close because the news media has a vested interest in it being close, so they are very selective to not report on anything that could crush trump out of the running. because contention and conflict drives viewership and ratings. So does another Trump presidency, and the media has dropped all pretense on who their preferential candidate is for that reason.

    Which is why they spent a month harping on the mass hallucination of Bidens supposed mental incompetence, yet havent done so much as very briskly brush by the same topic on trumps very obvious, very public, very recorded decline. or his increasingly nazi-like rhetoric. or him doing anything that would have anyone else out of the race if it was reported on properly

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      Or because most major news outlets are owned by the billionaires that want those sweet sweet trump tax cuts?

      Fox News is the preferred station by older republican audiences. They’re also the most consistently voting. So all the propaganda they push gets swallowed due to the lack of journalistic integrity.

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    Guys k-12 education is literally Zionist and grade 8 genocided grade 9.

    You’re just a Zionist if you support expanding k-12 education.

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    45% of American voters will vote for Trump even if every accusation against him is true. 45% of American voters will vote for Harris even if every accusation against her is true.

    It stopped being about issues decades ago. It’s about ideologies.

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      It’s actually more like 45% of American voters will vote for Trump if every accusation against him is true, so he can say and do whatever bullshit he wants, and 45% of American voters wouldn’t vote for Harris even if every accusation against her was true, so she has to keep her promises in line with reality. You have the portion of society that is gamed by the system, and the portion of society that is aware, and those that are aware are much harder to please.

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    it’s close because racism, jeebus, and guns. it seems like it should be more than that, but it isn’t. broke uneducated GOP voters literally don’t care about anything except for some combination of the above 3 things, because that’s what the 1% propaganda machine told them to do

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      And the Dems will have very little affect (if any) on anyone’s jebus or guns. So it’s really just the racism that’s the distinguishing factor.

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        Dems will have very little affect (if any) on anyone’s jebus or guns

        and yet the bleating of “they’re trying to take yer gunnnnnnns” and “war on christmas/christianity” never ever fucking stops

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          It’s insane.

          And it’s far more likely that if the GOP had total control, they’d institute a national religion (good luck having your flavor picked for that one) and that they’d take away all the guns to protect their power (since there is clearly nothing they’d avoid doing if it meant getting/keeping power).

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      The guns thing. There is a rather large swath of rural, liberal gun owners. If you’ve ever lived in a locale that lacks enough ambient light for you to see your hand in front of your face at night, you get it. If you live in a place where you can hear a car approaching from more than a mile away you get it.

      Let my handgun have a normal clip (average 9mm is 15 bullets) and we’re probably golden. And yet. DEMs lose moderate libs on this single issue.

      Yes, I own a handgun. Off the shelf with no mods it holds 18 per clip standard and comes with 2 clips.

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        i live in the mountains in a town of ~3000. i can drive 30 miles without seeing a traffic light. and i also have a gun

        i’m still voting D, because i see that as a boneheaded thing to acquiesce to trump over. though to be fair, there IS NO valid defensible reason to vote for that incompetent pluted bloatocrat rapist coward

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          I have several. Not once have I actually felt like someone was coming to take them. Beto shot himself in the foot saying he would, especially in Texas.

          I like common sense gun laws. I took classes for my concealed carry. I can pass a test about the care and feeding of firearms any day of the week. No one except me has access to my guns.

          Of course I’m voting blue. They ain’t coming for my guns. And even if they were I’d still vote against Trump and fight them on it.

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          Ofc not, and yet this is a single issue that motivates people.

          He is a rapist. A coward. A traitor. A cluster B personality disorder. And now he’s fraying around the edges from old age. The stress can’t be helping his decline.

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        It makes a lot of sense for very rural living: you need a defense against the wild, and possibly hunting for food. I fully support that.

        The general desire among Democrats is stricter regulation, which is a very reasonable thing. People should be required to prove that they can be a responsible gun owner and are mentally fit to own one. I shouldn’t be able to pick one up from the sporting goods store like it’s a bag of potato chips. It is an incredibly powerful tool and can easily kill others. It should be treated as such.

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        I generally hear them water down the gun control, like a handgun with a stock number of bullets is generally ok. Or a rifle or shot gun. Unless you have some red flags, which you probably don’t have. Even in some of the stricter nations of gun control, there’s frequently some path for rural folks to at least have long guns.

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      Let’s not forget the group that’s voting 3rd party due to the situation in Israel. Does it make sense to do, no, but they will do it.

      I’ve tried to discuss it in the ML communities but as soon as you start proving your points with solid facts they just delete everything you said, censored and banned, a bit ironic.

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    Every time some ridiculous shit like this happens, I remember when Howard Dean yelled a little too loud and that invalidated his entire political career.

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      Even worse, apparently we only got the audio from his mic and it was an appropriately loud EEEEAAAAGH given the audience volume

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        He went on to run the DNC on the platform of healthcare reform and was instrumental in getting Obama elected with a supermajority trifecta. And then he was fired and Lieberman got to kill the public option.

        He offered too much to maintain cultural hegemony.

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      Been thinking this thought a lot lately. IIRC he was a decent man and likely would have been a decent president - but god forbid he get a little excited at a rally. Meanwhile, Trump has proven that literally nothing he could do or has done would change the mind of his voters. He could start and end every speech with a Howard Dean scream, and no one would even bat an eye.

       

      (And I seem to also recall hearing that the isolated microphone of his scream that we’ve all heard a hundred times did not reflect how it even sounded at the event.)

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    Most conservatives believe state education isn’t anything more than brainwashing against conservative ideas.

    They’re 100% correct. Education tends to make one confront reality and live in the real world, a very un-conservative concept.

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      they have to start from kindergarten onward, because it doesn’t take much education to make people realize that “because tradition” is just about the dumbest reason to do anything. and if that’s the only reason you’re doing something, then maybe it’s time to grow the fuck up and move on

      but no, they’ve turned words like “progress” and “change” into pejoratives. same as “expert,” “science,” and “facts/fact-checking”

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      “Go to college and get a good education!”

      goes to college, gets educated in class and from people from all over who aren’t like me. Realize different people have different needs

      “College is a liberal brain wash machine!”