• Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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    20 days ago

    My wife is Indonesian Muslim, hates Kamala for what we’re doing in Palestine and told me not to vote for her. I’m still voting for Kamala

    Have you considered having solidarity with your wife? Did you convince her to vote Kamala, or is this still a wedge issue? Or are you not even telling her?

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      20 days ago

      Your copy/pasted comment is telling people to defeat MAGA with socialism. But first let’s get it to hard mode by having MAGAs take over and do Project 2025, right?

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        20 days ago

        A Socialist revolution is “hard mode” whether the Democrats or Republicans are in charge, I don’t know where you’re getting the idea that the establishment parties would be any friendlier or more hostile to a literal revolution.

        I also don’t know why you’re saying I am suggesting voting for Trump either, not once have I encouraged it.

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          20 days ago

          Only one of two people will win. You’re asking this person if they considered voting against the less awful choice.

          I’m sure we’re both pissed off about how protesters are treated right now. Only one of two parties is saying we need National Guard, deport the protesters, that presidents can execute whomever as an Official Act, that the military should be used against the opposition over speech.

          Yeah, so go with your “nach Trump kommen Wir” plan, it will be equally hard to achieve socialism either way, NBD. Not sure why it isn’t, “equally hard either way so let’s pick the ones at least pretending women and LGBT people should have human rights,” but you do you.

          • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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            20 days ago

            I am asking people to listen to directly and indirectly impacted people, rather than thinking they are more “enlightened” than them for voting for the genocidal establishment. Additionally, both parties have been cracking down on pro-Palestinian protestors, Walz even sent in the National Guard after BLM protestors, that’s not a real point.

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                20 days ago

                Thats how this is supposed to work. A collective of different perspectives all place votes for their and their families/communities best interest.

                Democrats are really struggling to accept that half the country isnt better off under their administrations.

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                  20 days ago

                  Are Dems improving things, or improving them fast enough? No. But I think the reality of today is that the only ones not better off under a Dem administration are wealthy people and bigots who want society to be a white supremacist hierarchy. I’m not saying people are well off, I am saying the alternative is worse, and by a lot.

                  If it were not possible to win an election as a MAGA the political parties would have to move further left. Instead we have Dems looking back on elections and deciding to move further right in attempt to pick up voters who actually cast a ballot.

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                    20 days ago

                    If it were not possible to win an election as a MAGA the political parties would have to move further left.

                    This will never happen, because the source of MAGA is Capitalist decay, as I explained in another comment already.

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                  20 days ago

                  99% of the population is worse off under their competition, so there’s still not really much of a choice.

              • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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                20 days ago

                The Uncommitted movement didn’t say to vote for Harris. And yes, Walz sending in the National Guard against BLM protestors is a bad thing.

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                  20 days ago

                  You can read the article if you like. Or continue to participate in a distorted reality.

                  I disagree that arsonists were actually with the protesters. You have a really delusional perspective that allows you to pretend sending in the guard at all is the same as black vans. Or this. Or this.

                  Alright, link me to some of the worst of the Dem federal response to protests about Gaza. I’m ready to be wrong.

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      20 days ago

      Have you considered having solidarity with your wife?

      Have you ever considered that people aren’t a hive mind?