• Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    5
    arrow-down
    6
    ·
    20 days ago

    Even if we push the gear, it clicks again. The Democrats are moving to the right, against their voterbase. You have no solution, fascism is coming even with Dems at the helm.

      • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        arrow-down
        4
        ·
        20 days ago

        No, the Repubs are also evil.

        What is your solution? How are you proposing fascism be stopped?

        • barsquid@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          6
          arrow-down
          3
          ·
          20 days ago

          You’re right about organizing outside of elections. You’re wrong about “elections alone cannot fix it therefore throw your ballot in the garbage.” Whatever the solution is, I would rather attempt it under a slower transition into fascism.

          • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            5
            arrow-down
            4
            ·
            20 days ago

            Fascism comes from continuously deteriorating material conditions, not from whichever party is in power. Harris is already campaigning on improving conditions for “small business owners,” continuing Capitalism in decay continues fascism’s ascent. My point is that voting will not slow down or speed up fascism, that’s something that comes with the economic conditions of society and the class relations within.

            • barsquid@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              6
              arrow-down
              3
              ·
              20 days ago

              There’s no difference between Harris’s “small business owners” and Donald’s “dictator day one” in terms of fascism, I see.

              • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                4
                arrow-down
                4
                ·
                20 days ago

                What do you think fascism is? A mold? The Democrats are not anti-fascist, they are the polite face of a duopoly.

                • barsquid@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  6
                  arrow-down
                  2
                  ·
                  20 days ago

                  Sorry, I’ll try to go with your definition of fascism. So fascism is when protestors are arrested, either because they deliberately got themselves arrested or if they are snatched up in black vans.

                  We went over this. Both sides bad. Ratchet effect. Therefore instead of trying to rest against a tooth, let it click backwards another step.

                  • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    3
                    arrow-down
                    4
                    ·
                    20 days ago

                    You can’t “rest against a tooth,” the positions of the parties aren’t unflinching, unchanging policies but reflections of economic conditions. The Democrats haven’t abandoned Medicare for All because the Republicans vibed themselves to the right and they followed, but because economic conditions are deteriorating as disparity rises.

                    You’re taking the ratchet effect metaphor far too literally. As the Material Conditions change, so too do the policies of the ruling parties, they are not guided by popular sentiment.