• PriorityMotif@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    My Mexican immigrant coworker believes that if Kamala gets elected that immigrants will be deported but also immigrants are getting too much free money and food stamps and things like that. He really has bought into some kind of weird belief that Donald Trump is a better candidate. He can’t vote because he’s not a citizen. I think he’s just pissed off because he works two jobs and sees people who get free stuff and don’t come here legally as lazy.

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      6 days ago

      The electoral college picks the president. Not you. You’re a “migrant” labeled “citizen”. You can influence the election if you happen to walk by an actual elector and get a chance to talk to him… Tell him about your student loans, your fear of putin, the homeless, you two jobs just to pay the mortgage, etc. they’ll understand and vote the way you would vote if you were an actual elector… don’t you worry migrant!

      Yey! Democracy!

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      6 days ago

      Trying to combine immigrants in your first sentence is so disingenuous. Here’s what makes it clear:

      Legal Immigrants are different than illegal immigrants. Of course your coworker is pissed off that he’s come here legally and is not getting rewarded for it. Whether the ones who come illegally are lazy or not doesn’t make a difference. They shouldn’t be given anything we currently give them. We have veterans dying in the streets getting nothing. Everyone should be mad about it.

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        6 days ago

        What you’re saying is not precisely true. To register for food stamps, well, you need to be registered. Likewise for other forms of welfare.

        Illegal immigrants are not coming to this country and living off of welfare. That is not happening.

        But even if it was, are you seriously going to tell me that the solution to that is to kick those immigrants out? To round them up in camps? That’s not going to help homeless veterans.

        People like you will either believe in stupid arguments or talk in bad faith, and then not actually support welfare or UBI at all.

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          6 days ago

          Illegal immigrants aren’t getting money and services through our usual welfare program, but nice try implying that’s what we’re claiming.

          And yes, kick out the ones here illegally. Not sure where you’re getting camps from, just move them out. Then we need to redirect sources to Americans that need it and we need to make sure those are being spent properly and not disappearing into bureaucratic pockets.