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    It will at least be extremely funny to watch all the right wing gamer bro chuds freak the fuck out when an immediate consequence of their actions will be that gaming pc components instantly inflate 50% in price.

    Glad I already got my Steam Deck, fuck.

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      Bold of you to assune they won’t just blame Dems because it isn’t like reality matters.

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        20 years into the trump dynasty dictatorship, they will still be saying “thanks Biden” to every financial inconvenience.

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        I just said they would freak out.

        Who they end up blaming is between them and their god emperor, I guess.

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        Fuck the dems, too. Less people voted this election, than the last election. People didn’t bother to go vote that should have.

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      but but… Orange men said it was good for the economy, now I have to pay 2000 Dollars for a 5090? Why aren’t they coming to America and produce here!?

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          Oh, the thing Trump called “so bad” on Joe Rogan a couple weeks ago? He said that tariffs are his preferred strategy to force companies to build in the US. Maybe that was just rhetoric and you can’t trust it, but he did say it.

          As it stands, CHIPS isn’t going anywhere, so at least Americans won’t be totally fucked.

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            Its a pretty strategically and economically impactful piece of legislation pushed by, and then signed into law, by Biden, in 2022.

            It basically sets up a bunch of tax incentives and funds to go toward building out domestic computer hardware research and manufacturing.

            Its the kind of thing that would lay the foundation for the US building a lot more of its own computer hardware, instead of importing it.

            So when the Trump tariff apocalypse hits… assuming the CHIPS Act does not get repealed, it will be the only saving grace in terms of possibly lowering computer hardware costs.

            Trump and Republicans are likely to try and take credit for this, if domestic chip fabs start coming online before 2028, pretending it is something they came up with.

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      If you think that’s funny just wait for all the construction bros to discover that Milwaukee is now a Chinese company and their M18 HD12 batteries suddenly cost >500 a pop

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        And automotive guys figuring out a good chunk of their replacement parts are European.

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          Oh, that too. Most of these compact SUVs are built foreign because that’s where they generate the most revenue. Imagine hitting a pheasant in your Chevy, a pheasant of all things, and getting a 10k insurance estimate because it cracked your made-in-Mexico integrated LED headlamp assembly and split your bumper cover

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      yep! and by then it’s too late. they’ve already shot themselves in the foot, they just haven’t felt the pain yet.

      edit - and honestly, if we were actually producing all this stuff locally and competitively, I would be OK with these chinese tariffs since it would encourage buying USA-made. The problem is that we arent, and probably won’t be for a while. we’d all suffer in the meantime.

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      This post is my reminder that I should probably upgrade my graphics card this December, rather than waiting for any other time.

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    For years, us, Canadians went to USA for shopping. Next year with the exchange rate at the highest for US$, and Canada without tariff, a shit load of americans will come to Canada to buy their electronics and stuff.

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      They’ll still have to pay the tariff when crossing the border back to the USA, unless they want to risk smuggling it.

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        I .Ean that’s how it was for Canadians, it’s not like we had an actual work around there either. People just don’t bother to declare stuff when crossing.

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          A Canadian I used to know told me their family would have some cheaper items in the back seat that they’d declare and hide the more expensive stuff. Apparently it did work.

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        REGULATIONS

        Returning to the U.S.

        Less than 48 hours in Canada:

        $200 USD worth of goods per person, tax and duty freeAny purchase of alcohol or tobacco products may be subject to duties and taxes

        48+ hours in Canada:

        $800 USD worth of goods per person, tax and duty freePurchases may include 1 litre of alcohol, 200 cigarettes (1 carton), and 100 cigarsFamily members can combine their tax and duty allowances

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        Not just Chinese goods, but Chinese components. That cost will be passed on to the consumer. There are A LOT of things that aren’t made at all in the US. If you thought cost of living was high under Biden…

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    Brought this up to a friend who is very pro Trump and he said

    “Part of trying to get industry back in the country (which we would be better off with) involves making imports less appealing.”

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      These people have no concept of geo politics and global trade. For example, we produce a lot of the world’s soy, that’s a major export, not many other countries do it on a large scale like that - so we cut the other countries some slack and tell them we won’t produce this particular good so you can have a hand in the global economy. Yes having the production here would be ideal as I’m all for it, but the world is so much more than Murica and they can’t see past their fucking noses.

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      Does he also know local companies will capitalise on the price increase?

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        Current import price: 80

        Current USA made price: 100

        Tariff import price: 200

        Tariff USA made price: 190

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      Trump is banking on foreign companies moving their operations to the US. There’s also a high chance that Trump actually won’t do anything. The guy talks a lot.

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      They already have been. China has been working at circumventing restrictions by basically offloading raw materials or parts to Mexico and having them build the product to ship to the US.

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      Unironically what we’re going to hear Trump say. But also, there’s so much money in imports, I can see this plan getting bottled up and strangled in Congress very easily.

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        Except I can see Trump just sidestepping via EO. Sure, it’s unconstitutional, but “official acts”, remember?

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    That’s all cool and nice, but let’s see what happens to the prices when Taiwan gets invaded.

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      Had a friend an acquaintance of mine say that this wouldn’t happen because “Trump hates China so he’ll defend Taiwan” He’ll also “support Israel so Iran won’t get so uppity!” He also believes that whilst Ukraine is probably fucked, at least the war will be over.

      That’s nice, isn’t it?

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        Ah the poor soul! Having to hear about the Ukraine war!!! He’s just too precious, how dare we inconvenience him by keep this in the news???

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          Even my girlfriend, who doesn’t really do politics, turned to me and said “but surely Putin then just goes after his next target like Hitler did”

          It’s pretty telling when someone who struggles with politics in general understands it better than a guy who spent time in Afghanistan.

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            And that’s exactly it. Putin has literally made no secret that he wants to take back, by force, every former SSR he can’t force into CSTO. The Baltics, Moldova, Poland, Finland probably. Then south to Georgia, Armenia, and who knows where it’ll stop - maybe he’ll be dumb enough (and live long enough) to try to start Afghanistan War #4.

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      No need to invade when their economy collapses internally and Beijing can step up to buy the whole island out from the bargain basement bin.

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    Seeing a stark void of “Fuck China” posts all of a sudden. Crazy what happens when the treat train gets held up at the border.

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    Its a shame I don’t have enough for solar yet. If you get it now its like getting a free battery if they are all getting a 40% hike. Probably gonna get rid of the tax incentive too cause the rich need it more too right?!

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      Probably worth financing it. What you lose in interest costs will probably be worth it if these tariffs go through.

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        You aren’t wrong but my goals to pay off my car loan first and that should be done in a year. Sucky timing I guess.

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    The world will be split between countries that trade freely with China and countries that don’t.

    This will be the test and control for whether trading with China is good or bad.