“We know there are voices across the world calling for a ceasefire, but what everyone needs to understand is that the only people who stand to gain from halting the bombing campaign are people who deeply value human life,”

  • Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works
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    Being pro Palestine but anti Hamas is like being pro beef but anti slaughtering cows. Hamas is the means Palestine has to force Israel to quit their genocide, disavowing them is the same as being pro Israeli genocide.

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      Hard disagree. Hamas attacking and kidnapping Israeli civilians is not on the children and civilians of Palestine. Just as many Israelis don’t agree with the policies of the Netanyahu government.

      Moderate voices need to prevail in both Israel and Palestine for lasting peace to become reality.

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        Moderate voices need to prevail in Israel. Extremist voices need to prevail in Palestine, because the people committing genocide do not give one fuck about moderate Palestinians. You don’t stop genocide with talk, you stop it with terrorism and mass slaughter in return. Until the rest of the world steps up to do their violence for them, Palestine needs to slaughter as many Israelis as possible. That is the only language that genociders respond to.

        I certainly don’t blame Palestine for the actions of Hamas. I blame Israel. Israel is the one who forced Palestine to resort to terrorism. Short of their own genocide, anything Palestine needs to do to prevent Israel genociding them is justified. They have the right to defend themselves (which is true when Palestinians say it - Israel has never been defending itself).

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          In what world does Hamas slaughtering Israeli civilians lead to peace? That’s madness. Peace only happens when both sides come together. The Saudis were close to negotiating a peace deal with Israel right before the Hamas attack happened.

          Palestinian lives were about to get better. That’s why Hamas attacked when they did.

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            Hamas has already done far more than their fair share of peace. The only language Israel understands is violence. Hamas is the only reason Israel is even considering a ceasefire. If you think Hamas killing Israelis is not in the benefit of all Palestinians, you’re a fool.