No it doesn’t… football is built on money and let’s face it the richest clubs in the world aren’t going to get even a points deduction because without them those people at the top of FIFA or Prem don’t get those big pay days
Lol no it doesn’t
And why should we believe that article
It’s just a click bait title, they are smart and know stuff like this will spread amongst these forums virally. This is the fourth sub I’ve seen this in.
I can’t read the article, it’s behind a pay wall?
Martyn Ziegler is known for just sprouting nonsense and making stuff up to attract the masses in some clickbait title. Did it the entire time Chelsea was under sanctions
I have the perfect cop out proposal. For the next 10 years. Man City starts the league on -10 points. Give other teams a chance to win the league. You could do something similar with Chelsea.
Relegation not only to the championship. But even further then that!
Be cautious about riling them up. Especially City. Last time this happened they slammed a treble on the table lmao.
Which might well be taken away
Not going to happen. Keep dreaming tho kid
Hell fucking yeah
Wouldn’t surprise me if instead of
“Wow if the Ev got 10 points deducted for their breach of ffp that sets quite a precedent for when city get all theirs”
It’ll be
“Oh so a 10 point deduction across one season is just the new default punishment”
10 pts, spread over 10 seasons. Promise not to investigate further and the FA will ask Parliament to ignore all transactions with HSBC over the next decade.
Honestly if they have City a 10 point deduction for all their seasons then I’d be fucking ecstatic. Sure I’d like more, but it’s better than the slap on the wrist most of us are expecting.
Should probably be 15 points per year for about 13 years really, but lawyers talk. Might have to reach a point where no home fans show up when City visit to get the point across
After an appeal to the CAS, the 10 point reduction will be reduced to a £65,000 fine and playing their next League Cup match behind closed doors.
Except they almost always half the penalty on appeal so Everton will almost certainly get 5 points deducted no more.
Premier League: “Man City are in substantial breach. Dock Everton a further 10 points. They need to be made an example of to ensure this never happens again.”
I don’t know what will happen with City. My guess is very little.
Chelsea are self reporting financial irregularities and violations identified through the due diligence process and subsequent takeover process. Hitting current ownership with a massive points deduction seems counter intuitive and unlikely. I would expect a massive fine, instead, and possible transfer window bans.
financial irregularities and violations
So they’re just allowed to get away with it because it happened under a previous ownership? If I went to the police and admitted to committing a murder would I get away with it just because I said that it happened 2 years ago and I had a different girlfriend at the time?
Your analogy is not good.
How about this analogy: if the previous owners of a block of land buried toxic waste there, and after purchasing the land I discovered it and reported it, would I be let off the hook? Nope, I would be legally responsible for the clean up and the ongoing impacts. I could sue the previous owners but if they’ve hightailed it to a favourable jurisdiction then I’m left with the mess.
Actually yes. It depends how you buy the land and the legal documents. That’s what reps and warranties and indemnifications are for in the documents.
Agree, Clearlake withheld £100 million of the fee during the Chelsea purchase to cover any potential fines they might face after investigation, makes far more sense for the FA to take a chunk of that then to dock points.
That’s not what happened with Reading. Club is hemhorraging money right now and they’re getting monthly points deductions.
I say toss a 20 point deduction at Chelsea and a 100 point deduction at City. And if City don’t make 100 this season, they get the rest next season in the Championship.
Chelsea didn’t self report it though - that was bullshite news.
Nah the most recent leaks are far more damning and weren’t self reported. The fact that your ownership have already admitted financial irregularities might not help your case ultimately
I suspect city’s policy of throwing a Fuck load of very expensive lawyers and money at the case and refusing to admit any wrongdoing will work out better than them, than Chelsea being compliant
Or that would set a precedent that all you need to do to avoid the punishments is change ownership. Both clubs need to be punished, otherwise corruption has won
The club is a separate entity entirely from its owners.
Dumped out of the Premier league into the super league
I will take Pep being forced out of the EPL and banned from returning.
Then Ange gets kicked out, because, after all, he’s “only copying Pep, mate.” (/S)
Nah, force him to manage Stoke!
This is stupid the EPL need city & Chelsea it would be like shooting the league in its own foot???
No we don’t, we were a big league long before they came about and we’ll be a big league if they go down too
1% Chance, 99% Faith
Either way Liverpool aren’t being gifted a title mate
Their goods days were gone
15% concentrated power of will
5% pleasure
50% pain
And 100% reason to end second again 😭
- They still have squads absolute light years away to even a fantasy team of the EFL best players.
- They have all the resources (academy, scout network, branding, and assets) that maintain their top flight status
- They gain promotion, every year until they are back in top.
- They’ll spend just as much once back on top
- It will just mean the likes of Man U, Spurs, Arsenal, Liverpool, etc, will spend 100’s millions per window, because they can.
- It will prevent genuinely hardworking EFL clubs from been promoted, as they walk any leauge they drop into.
- FFP would mean most of their players would leave. The remainder would have to be sold to cover payouts to the PL for fines and other clubs for damages IE. Everton are facing a £300m lawsuit for 1 £20m overspend.
- How will they pay for all the resources? No sponsor is touching them for years, so only gate money. I doubt the owners would be deemed fit to carry on and most youth products would want to move to a top flight club.
- Possibly, if they have the gate revenue to do so.
- They won’t if the owners are barred and no sponsor touches them.
- True but they haven’t lied about their revenue. Being a big club with big grounds/support and legitimate sponsorship isn’t breaking FFP. Lying about payments to get an unfair advantage is. The big clubs will be the first to sue, but most of the premier league and anybody relegated in the last dozen years will be seeking damages.
- Possibly but it depends what happens to City.
My response to all of that is Juventus managed it. Obviously different circumstance, but exile doesn’t mean no one will sponsor or bankroll you
Sheffield United sued West Ham for 20m in 2007 after West Ham were found guilty regarding Tevez and Macherano. If the same happens to City the sums would be astronomical. CL money missed, titles lost, the reputational gain missed which would have translated into more sponsorship money etc for several clubs spanning a decade would run into the hundreds of millions at the bare minimum.
I hope so