People think that scrapping FFP will help the league. But in reality, it will make clubs spend beyond their spending and incur more debts.

This will be a bad thing for smaller clubs, who are trying to compete with big clubs.

The top 6 have rich owners, while clubs like city and New Castle united have states backing them up. They can spend as much as they want. Meanwhile, smaller clubs will not have the means to compete with them.

FFP is there to level up the ground and make sure lower clubs don’t bankrupt themselves. You can hate it as much as you want to, but without it alot of clubs will go bankrupt and even go in to administration.

  • RyanTheS@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    If you think that FFP helps the smaller clubs then you have a fundamental lack of understanding on how FFP works. Its only purpose is to keep the top teams at the top.

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    FFP doesn’t do anything to help the smaller clubs, just helps protect the existing hegemony. A standardised salary cap would be the only was to create a truly level playing field.

    FFP Is a waste of time in its current state anyway with all the big clubs frequently undertaking in dubious practices.

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      1 year ago

      It helps prevent clubs from bankrupting themselves but also gives them no fucking chance of ever winning a title. Salary cap would be way more fair but why would the top clubs ever agree to that?

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      1 year ago

      Exactly. If you can only afford average players then average players is all you’re going to get. How is a smaller team supposed to grow and compete if it’s only allowed to spend a fraction of a sky 6 club.

      • Hungry_Bodybuilder57@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        Same way it happens in any other industry. When did United, Liverpool or Arsenal need to receive a giant cash injection from an oil state to get to the top?

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          Lol they weren’t from oil states but all of those clubs became successful by investing money into the club and outspending everyone else.

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    FFP was designed to keep the big clubs big and small clubs small. It’s not to protect clubs from themselves, it’s not about anything other than maintaining the status quo for big clubs and not letting anyone else get to be a big club.

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      Wouldn’t dispute that it does help protect the big clubs’ positions, but also look at bankruptcies/administrations in the lower leagues before and after FFP… It’s helped hugely to keep clubs afloat.

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    Like I have said before fixing FFP isn’t that hard.

    Cap club debt at a percentage of revenue (say 50%). Any debt over that goes directly onto the owner not the club.

    When a club is sold a part of sales proceeds goes to pay off any club debt first.

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    FFP is bankrupting clubs more than would otherwise be the case as every club that isn’t wealthy is forced to sell their prized assets in order to spend/compete and comply with FFP and when they return into the market it’s heavily inflated because of those big clubs buying those prized assets in the first place.

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    No reason why we can’t have an FFP that excludes money provided personally by the owner at their own expense. And which excludes money spent on facilities like the ground etc

    No reason why we can’t have that at all.

    Unless you are Man Utd, Arsenal, Liverpool etc and clubs doing that threatens your status quo

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    How would it ″make clubs spend″?

    That’s just silly, no it wouldn’t. How many clubs actually overspent to the point it caused them financial problems before FFP? I can think of Portsmouth and Leeds, that’s it. The vast majority of clubs don’t do that, with or without FFP. And even having FFP rules doesn’t preven financial issues, see Derby County.

    • Hungry_Bodybuilder57@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      Pretty much the entire championship is now owned by idiotic owners who are spending completely unsustainable amounts of money as far as FFP will let them to reach the premier league

    • Welshpoolfan@alien.topB
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      having FFP rules doesn’t preven financial issues, see Derby County

      Derby haven’t been in the PL since the rules were brought in, so how can they have had any impact on Derby?

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    Why do you think football owners are complete cretins that cannot manage to stay within their set budget? Theres a handful of owners that want to invest for sporting success, the vast majority of football owners now, namely the Americans all want to do the exact opposite of spending beyond their means, they want to siphon out as much money from the club as possible and spend as little of their own money as possible.

    Ffp was brought in to protect the biggest and wealthiest clubs, nothing else.