• Apeman42@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5·
    6 months ago

    So, when you remove what I assume is an announcement bot and lizard people from the equation, the answer is George Takei? Yeah, that sounds about right.

    • gedaliyah@lemmy.worldEnglish
      02·
      6 months ago

      So, when you remove what I assume is an announcement bot and lizard people from the equation, the answer is George Takei? Yeah, that sounds about right.

      I don’t like threads at all, but referring to Mark Zuckerberg and Adam Mosseri as “lizard people” is pretty antisemitic, especially since they are both Jewish people.

      I’m guessing that you were unfamiliar with this antisemitic dogwhistle, but I also understand that’s the point of a dogwhistle - It doesn’t sound racist unless you already know about it.

      Here are a few links to learn more:

      https://www.businessinsider.com/lizard-people-conspiracy-theory-origin-nashville-bomber-qanon-2021-1

      https://www.tiktok.com/@bookersquared/video/7144513038274661675

      • db2@lemmy.world
        3·
        6 months ago

        Or just possibly it hasn’t got anything to do with Jewish people. This might come as a shock but not everything does.

        This is from someone with a reasonable amount of that heritage telling you to shut the hell up already. You’re not the main character.

        • Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works
          0·
          6 months ago

          Mosseri has dual US/Israel citizenship, and Zuckerberg was raised Reform and has Jewish ancestry. So whether or not that’s why you despise them, the point about the dog whistle is legit. Maybe you should edit it to something more befitting the reasons you despise them. Be creatively critical!

          • Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            01·
            6 months ago

            the point about the dog whistle is legit.

            No, it isn’t; a dogwhistle is a message that isn’t detectable by someone unaware of it. Using lizard person like that isn’t an antisemitic dog whistle because people have been using it to disparagingly refer to the wealthy/politicians/etc. irrespective of their heritage for decades at the very least. Whether the term used to be used a specific way, or even how it originated isn’t actually relevant to the question.

            Basically what I’m saying is you need to calm down and figure out the difference between being woke and being a wokescold. It’s hard to strike that ballance, but the first step is realizing you haven’t done it yet.

            • Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works
              0·
              6 months ago

              Hahaha, I think the only person getting worked up here is yourself. I mean really, what’s cringier than “wokescold”? Next you’ll be calling me a “wokewitch.” For the high crime of checking Wikipedia. Put down the torch and pitchfork, sweetie, you’ll hurt yourself.

              • Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                0·
                6 months ago

                Yeah, things like calling me “sweetie” and implying that my mild criticism is me acting like you committed a high crime are not exactly going to change my mind. Telling other people what to do based on a misplaced notion of what’s harmful is exactly what I mean. It reminds me of that really creepy phase of internet discourse when a large ammount of people started insisting on saying “Latinx” as a gender-neutral inclusive version of “latino” or “latina”. The worst part about that was it was an exonym that was being forced on a minority community by a bunch of white liberals who had a notion of what was wrong with someone else’s culture and were actively trying to fix it. So instead of being slightly annoying and unhelpful they were being actively harmful in their ignorance. BTW, for anyone wondering: I’ve learned through speaking with people that the preferred term is “Latine”.

                Now, obviously the same damage is not being done in this instance, but it illustrates why I’m saying this, and shows the dangers of bandwagoning as soon as you think something might be perpetuating oppression. No doubt that it’s good to be aware of how our behavior affects others and to adjust accordingly, but what I see here is people defending a billionaire against a term by saying that it’s antisemitic without being educated on it by the wider Jewish community beforehand, and so I find it largely unconvincing. If I see further discourse about it I’ll investigate, and if one of my friends starts talking to me about it I’ll heed their concerns. However, a small number of strangers on the internet saying something isn’t enough to change my mind, especially not without a good argument.

                • Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works
                  0·
                  6 months ago

                  There’s billions of reasons to hate those guys that have nothing to do with their religion.

                  And using “woke” as a pejorative? Woke is simply having basic human decency and a modicum of common sense, so nobody who finds it used about them really minds. “Scold” has been used for centuries to shove outspoken and/or educated women into submission. It’s a label I’ll be proud to wear.

                  As for your defending dehumanization, and calling some people’s attempts to be gender-inclusive “creepy” rather than simply ungrammatical? Gee, sorry you find even the merest reference to anything other than heterosexual-male humanity so icky you can’t even.

                  Supporting the Reptilian Conspiracy puts you squarely in the same camp as David Icke, follower of Robert E. Howard, who referred to the “Kosher Nostra” and said powerful men in the Bible couldn’t have been really Jewish, but must have been “Aryan, like myself.”

                  You’ve told us who you are, and I believe you.

      • squid_slime@lemmy.world
        0·
        6 months ago

        So people calling the British royal family lizards are actually calling them Jewish?

        I like lizard people being a term to put down the upper class.

  • Vespair@lemm.ee
    5·
    6 months ago

    I will never understand why people follow “celebrities” on social media. Isn’t life already forcefully inundated with these overly self-important assholes as is? This is the same to me as people who go on YouTube to watch commercials; I just cannot fathom the appeal

    • VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      4·
      6 months ago

      Depends on the celebrity. Neil Gaiman is actually pretty chill online. Takei too, but the amount of articles he posts started to annoy me, so I dumped him. I don’t really know what people see in Zuck, though.

  • 𝔼𝕩𝕦𝕤𝕚𝕒@lemmy.world
    0·
    6 months ago

    What does this even mean, I can’t “follow” users on Jerboa. Is this some shit zuck added to his specific Threads then wanks about how he has all the followers?

    • Baŝto@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      2·
      6 months ago

      Lemmy doesn’t work like that, lemmy is about communities and you can join communities here. But Mastodon, PixelFed and PeerTube don’t work like that, they are about people posting stuff and therefore you follow people.

      • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
        1·
        6 months ago

        Its fundamentally weirder and more problematic to build your news feed around people rather than topics.

        • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          0·
          6 months ago

          Not to normies who are people people and love short form posts by “thought leaders” or more realistically celebrities and corpo brands (like sports teams or Taylor swift) they want to ape or consume products of.

          They never visited forums and got on the internet through mobile phones and Facebook, so the format of Reddit is strange and unfamiliar to them.

          It’s always been this way and it’s why twitter was/is way more popular than Reddit, the naturally pseudonymous throwaway nature of Reddit accs made it all seem too impersonal for most people.

          They probably see the internet as a whole as a negative and they think everyone is just there for ads and twitter and getting their dopamine systems hijacked instead of just actually wanting to be here and getting some kind of value out of it. All protests to the contrary are only seen as proof of their own theories.

          Everyone who’s interested in tech be it fediverse, cryptocurrency or godforbid AI to them must be in it to make money because no normal person is interested in anything other than people and therefore must be a musk/zucc fan and is thus branded a tech bro.

          These people vote in elections.