• Kalysta@lemm.ee
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    7 months ago

    Sadly this means nothing unless it’s enshrined in law and we get a new, not fascist supreme court.

    And neither party currently supports doing this.

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    7 months ago

    Can anyone give us summary over what does enables other than insurance companies and health care providers Can’t Turn You Away for simply lgbtq+

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      7 months ago

      Obama included gender, independent of sex, in anti-discrimination law for healthcare. Trump repealed it. Biden put it back.

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        7 months ago

        I mean obviously that’s good news but how does this change anything besides adding additional guidelines to what a healthcare provider can refuse

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          It protects gender-affirming care on a federal level, for one. It also makes it illegal to discriminate against transgender and nonbinary people pursuing gender-related care.

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            7 months ago

            Okay that’s good news but how does that relate to states that do have bans on gender affirming care like Texas? Does this give the hospital room to fight or something?

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              It overrules them. States cannot enact laws that are contrary to federal law. The laws that the states created were legal due to the absence of federal law, thanks to Trump’s repeal.

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                Those states and Individual healthcare providers are 100% going to ignore those laws. I live in a red state and we routinely flout federal law.

                And you can only really legislate against discrimination that people are stupid enough to document. They won’t say that they aren’t treating me because I’m trans, but because of some other reason. Just like the job that recently fired me and refused to pay me for ANY of the work I did, didn’t officially fire me because I’m trans :)

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    7 months ago

    Huh. So odd that, given how long ago this started, he just now decides to eliminate the law that this came from. During election year. Soooooo weird.

    Edit: if you guys seriously have no problem with how Biden let the LGBTQ community get screwed over after all this time up until now, during election season of all times, I don’t know what to tell you. The irony. I will die on this hill.

    Edit: so I guess they have been working on this awhile. I still think the timing is incredibly sus, though. However, I am glad that they did at least start on this awhile back.

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      There needs to be something like the narcissists prayer for people who say stuff like this.

      Let’s call it the haters prayer.

      “He didn’t help.”

      “And if he did, it wasn’t even that great.”

      “And if it was, it’s not even really due to him”

      “And if it was, it still doesn’t matter due to $INSERT_WHATABOUTISM_HERE”

      “And if it still matters, he only did it to help himself (get elected).”

      Amen.

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        This bill doesn’t affect me and I still think it’s suspiciously timed. So how is this narcissism? Genocide Joe sucks. Too say otherwise is lying to yourself and others

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          I never said this was narcissistic, I meant that, similar to the moving goalposts of the narcissists prayer being used by a narcissist for justification, some look for more and more reasons to discount good things that others have done.

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              Fuck if I know, do you know how long the process typically takes? I certainly don’t. I was googling this while walking the dog, I’m no expert.

              I work as a government contractor and from my experience things can be held up by the silliest little things, and processes take a lot of time.

              When the recent XZ security exploit, everyone was all worried about it nearly making it’s way into Debian, a popular flavor of Linux, and at work we just laughed and said that means we’d have to worry about it it in 10 years because we’re that slow.

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                Well then, yeah, I’d say it’d earn them a little grace, and I appreciate you actually talking about it instead of going down the “uR uH rUsSiAn TrOlL111one!” path. I still think it’s convenient timing, but it’s nice to see this was at least set into motion awhile back.

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                  Yeah, an argument could be made that 2022 was a Senate election year, and this was fueled by that, but at that point we’re invalidating 2/4 years a president has to make changes.

                  On top of this, I wouldn’t be surprised by the first year being slow as they get situated, meaning year 3 is the only year that “sincere” change can be expected to be made, which is kind of…harsh. I’d hate for my accomplishments to only count 25% of the time.

                  I also really appreciate the discourse - I hope you have a great day.