This. A lot of people don’t get that “hard on crime” is some authoritarian bullshit that creates crime as a self-fullfilling prophecy.
Shit, you’re gonna put me to jail for 8 months, ruin my life completely, and then send me to prison, where I’ll have whatever psyche broken down into a million pieces as I work in what can only be described as the western goulags?
No don’t you see, working manual labor inside an active wildfire for $0.13 an hour so you can buy a $5 Top Ramen to avoid eating the chlorinated sewer runoff they call food (see the infamous prison loaf) is totally different from gulags.
p.s. don’t bother applying for the same job you did for free in prison once you’re out, having a record disqualifies you! Good luck paying rent!
It’s kind of sick and twisted. When compared to actual functioning reformist prison systems, look no further than Norway.
During the 60s and 70s, it was the wardens that brought about the reform, because they didn’t like the way the prisoners were being treated. Several persons per room, one toilet per 6 people, etc. It was inhumane and it was the actual prison wardens who organised to fix the issue.
Now, many years later, the Norwegian prison system is one of the most effective prison systems in the world, with a low return rate. People who suffer from mental health issues and who break the law would be treated well in Norwegian prisons, leading to a much higher chance of reform and them becoming fully employed tax payers, so it sort of pays for itself over time.
In 2016 US police visited Norway and said “you should have a system more like ours”, and despite Norwegian police being somewhat their own boys club, a resound “hell to the no” resonated across the Norwegian landscape.
Do you want MS-13? Because penal colonies/western goulags is how you get MS-13.
This. A lot of people don’t get that “hard on crime” is some authoritarian bullshit that creates crime as a self-fullfilling prophecy.
Shit, you’re gonna put me to jail for 8 months, ruin my life completely, and then send me to prison, where I’ll have whatever psyche broken down into a million pieces as I work in what can only be described as the western goulags?
My gun could also go clap clap, because why not?
No don’t you see, working manual labor inside an active wildfire for $0.13 an hour so you can buy a $5 Top Ramen to avoid eating the chlorinated sewer runoff they call food (see the infamous prison loaf) is totally different from gulags.
p.s. don’t bother applying for the same job you did for free in prison once you’re out, having a record disqualifies you! Good luck paying rent!
So there is a statistic that 70%ish of prisoners return to prison within 5 years.
It was one of the things that “radicalized” me when I learned it.
It’s kind of sick and twisted. When compared to actual functioning reformist prison systems, look no further than Norway.
During the 60s and 70s, it was the wardens that brought about the reform, because they didn’t like the way the prisoners were being treated. Several persons per room, one toilet per 6 people, etc. It was inhumane and it was the actual prison wardens who organised to fix the issue.
Now, many years later, the Norwegian prison system is one of the most effective prison systems in the world, with a low return rate. People who suffer from mental health issues and who break the law would be treated well in Norwegian prisons, leading to a much higher chance of reform and them becoming fully employed tax payers, so it sort of pays for itself over time.
In 2016 US police visited Norway and said “you should have a system more like ours”, and despite Norwegian police being somewhat their own boys club, a resound “hell to the no” resonated across the Norwegian landscape.
Do you want MS-13? Because penal colonies/western goulags is how you get MS-13.