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      I don’t know that it’s net positive, probably closer to net neutral at best. A very small minority benefits from tampons in the boys room (trans and girls that ask boys to fetch one for them) and the cost is probably low, but definitely not free.

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        What is the cost?? That boys learn about things they should not know about? And don’t tell me the extra tampons, that’s not how that works

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            If they’re not getting used, nobody’s having to pay very much for them. It’s a stupid thing to worry about.

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              hey, I agree that there should be tampons in bathrooms. It just seemed like you were misunderstanding each other, so I tried to help out. I also think that we should be able to cover the, idk, 500k per year to outfit schools with tampons.

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            How? Like that’s saying a town should not get water because they don’t have that many residents. Every paid for tampon is for the same reason no matter where it is placed. This is just a convoluted rationalisation for discrimination

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              Like that’s saying a town should not get water because they don’t have that many residents.

              More like a water company not being willing to run pipes out to service that one house up the hollow past where the state stops bothering to pave the road. And you know what? Water utilities don’t run those pipes, because it would cost a bunch of money for very little public benefit. You don’t have to get too rural before you start seeing people with well or spring water because it stops being worth it to run city water.

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          Extra tampons, dispensers, installation and maintenance on those. Like I said, a low but non-zero cost for a small benefit (tampons in the boys bathroom) utilized by a tiny minority (trans girls and girls that send boys to fetch them tampons in an emergency). It might actually be a net positive (compared to what you could do by taking the funding used to include boys bathrooms in the tampon program and spending it on something else), but if it is it’s not going to be much of one just because of how small the total benefit is.

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              You could, doing so would likely increase utilization of the tampon policy meaning it would have a larger benefit for the same cost.

              I suspect if you tried to in schools you’d end up with a weird Title IX ruling that claimed that not having a girls room (regardless of availability of a unisex restroom) is sex discrimination in a way that not having a boys room isn’t, because equity. They have a bad habit of taking that kind of approach, see school sports.

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    Boys may play with them. Which is probably for the best actually. Removing stigma from basic hygiene products can only be a positive thing.

    It’s not the point of them being there but a nice side effect.

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          This just made me realize that I’ve never bought pads for my wife. I wouldn’t have any issue doing it, and I’m guessing she knows that, but she’s never asked me to.

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            Just look at the box, then grab the same one on your next grocery run. Do the same with her other feminine products. Put them in the cabinets where they go. Act like it was nothing. Make her wonder how long it was since she bought them herself.

            Advanced mode: Figure out her clothing sizes and what colors work for her, what fabrics feel nice, then get her a cute blouse or dress. Don’t make it a big deal.

            See what happens. One of my best friends mastered this. Dude cleaned up in college.

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              After 24 years of marriage if she isn’t interested in me buying her pads, I don’t think it’s the best surprise present. I’ve bought far more embarrassing things for her regarding body stuff when she’s needed them, so I think she just doesn’t want me to do it. It’s not like she hides them. I mean, she’s also never asked me to buy shampoo or soap or whatever for her. She would rather get exactly what she wants than rely on me to do it for that sort of thing.

              I’ll probably screw it up and buy the wrong ones even if I look at the box. And she’d probably be right with my memory.

              And to be fair, I haven’t gone out of my way to ask her to buy hygiene stuff for me either. We both got in the habit of shopping for ourselves for those sorts of things and it’s working out for us.

              Honestly, it’s so inconsequential that, as I said, I didn’t even realize I’d never done it until I thought about it.

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                She’s his wife. It’s their bathroom. He’s being considerate.

                If you mean my friend, that was in reference to buying his girlfriend a cute blouse now and then. He did the same for friends, his sister, and mom. He wasn’t a fuckboy buying tampons to pick up women. Word got around that he was top shelf. He was funny, charming, considerate, honest, and knew his way around the women’s rack at Goodwill. If a relationship stopped working, he was seldom single long.

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                  Yeah, I was just joking about the college friend, I knew what you meant but combining the two stories so the guy is going in and putting tampons in college girls private bathrooms would be a bit of an absurd thing.

                  I too have purchased feminine products for my wife :P it was weird the first time, mostly because I had no idea what I was looking for.

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          Nah its not just the US. I’ve run into similar in Ireland. I went into the supermarket to pick up pads and a tub of ice cream. Passed them to the young fella behind the counter who then leans over and whispers “do you need me to put them in a paper bag for ye?”

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        Heck, I once had to go get my mom AND my grandma tampons, and since there was a promotion I got like 3 of the granny ones, no one cared and I only remember because I was like a teenager and thought everyone would care, but no one did!

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      My old roommate dipped tampons in black cherry kool-aid, answer the door and look the person in the eyes while putting it in his mouth.

      Good times.

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      Yeah, like 99% in the boys room would be used for random shit.

      Actually, one of the gals at work made a spooky ghost with a tamp from the dispenser and it’s been hanging on a desk since last halloween.

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        I forsee some being wasted at the beginning and then them eventually becoming the backup supply when the girls restroom runs out.

        That is provided you don’t have some loser administrator just never refilling the boys room because of the waste.

        Free tampons usually suck, so most people prefer to buy their own but are glad they are there in an emergency.

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          Work for nose bleeds if small enough, and they were originally made for bullet wounds, and everyone knows the schools are where these nuts like to start their rebellions. I assume they just think they need to level up like in a video game. Fn assholes

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            Hate to be that guy but they never were and shouldn’t be used for bullet wounds. They were originally made to stop minor bleeding, though.

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            “A school with tampons in case of bullet wounds” is not exactly a nice thing to think of…

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            I remember my health teacher had mentioned this actually. She was a cross country coach I think and she used pads for a guy’s bleeding leg. Something like that, at least

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    I’m currently taking a shit mere inches from a box of my wife’s tampons and I’m scared, you guys. What if one finds its way into my butt?

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    such a weird thing to be mad about

    “They forced 4th graders to be in a room with LIGHTBULBS… those kids arent electricians!! What are they gonna do with all those lightbulbs in the ceilings?? Disgusting!”

    • Mothers Against Lightbulbs and Diversity (M.A.L.D)
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    FFS that’s not what Tim Walz did, at all. He signed (as opposed to vetoing) a bipartisan bill to provide free menstrual products to students, after a years-long campaign by students who had to pay for these at school.

    The law doesn’t say anything about boys bathrooms or genders. At most it can be argued that by not specifying that only girls bathrooms are included, it avoids singling out female-to-male and intersex students who use boys bathrooms for persecution. Which is of course controversial to Republicans.

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      Who gives a shit if it is what he did? Why would anyone fucking care if there are tampons in boy’s bathrooms? They’re not sex toys, they’re small pieces of absorbent fabric meant for soaking up blood. Are we supposed to keep them away from bandaids too?

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        I mean I figured it was more if women used the men’s they have access. Kinda weird to jump to other conclusions but thems the republicans.

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    Are you okay with tampons in boys’ washrooms?!

    Yyyes. And it’s weird that republicans are not. They’re hygiene products, not a political statement.

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        They’re really not, don’t stick anything in a penetrating wound, that’s a myth.

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        My understanding is that this often causes more harm than it prevents. It’s a popular concept, and has been taught by many people, but it’s not a good idea. It makes sense that it would work, but when actually tested it isn’t. Check for yourself though.

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          FWIW I’ve seen little single use packs of blood clotting powder in the camping section at both Target and Walmart recently (in the last few months) probably worth grabbing a few first aid kits.

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        I don’t think Megyn even buys into her positions very much. She seems more like just another soulless ghoul like Tucker, happy to stoke the culture war for fame and wealth.

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          You joke, but around when covid started I swear a fox news host announced he doesn’t wash his hands cause he doesn’t believe in germs. At this point I wouldn’t be surprised if “soap is evil” became the new conspiracy

          ha, found it. It was some guy named Pete Hegseth: “My 2019 resolution is to say things on air that I say off air,” Hegseth began. “I don’t think I’ve washed my hands for 10 years. I don’t really wash my hands ever. I inoculate myself. Germs are not a real thing. I can’t see them, therefore they are not real,” Hegseth added.

          I’d hope he was joking but this was on fox so who knows

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      The best part about all of this is that it’s not even true. They’re not in the boys bathroom. Not by rule, and not commonly, anyway.

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        To be clear: that’s basically a myth. While it’s often repeated and sounds logical - they’re the right shape, size and made to absorb blood - they’re not the right solution for that particular job.

        https://emj.bmj.com/content/35/8/516.responses

        Tl;dr: tampons only absorb about 10ml of blood and don’t really stop the actual bleeding by cutting off the source. You’re better off using a tourniquet, packing the wound with hemostatic dressing, regular gauze or even a shirt or other clothing. Those have a better chance of actually providing enough force to actually plug the artery.

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          I don’t think anyone was suggesting medics jam one in a bullet tract and be like, “go home, boys. Our job is done”

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            Obviously. But you want to be sure there’s someone left to save before that medic does show up. Which might be a while.

            In first aid, doing the wrong thing can be quite detrimental. So people should at least be aware that there’s better options at hand even if they don’t have an actual tourniquet or other medical supplies.

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      One time I was talking about the importance of trap-neuter-release programs in the car back from the GI Joe movie and my uncle aggressively shushed me because my cousin was 12 and they hadn’t told him about sex yet. It took me until like literally this year to realize my family are all fundies because until the last few years they’d been very pro education.

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        Purely out of curiosity, how long ago was this? Cause if your cousin had access to the internet, there’s a 200% chance he already knew what sex was.

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          No because that branch of the family didn’t allow internet at all and he didn’t even start laughing at ball jokes until 14. Honestly I never even really heard him talk about friends outside his siblings. Like I’m steadily realizing that my family was actually literal fundies.

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          Yeah my parents went the “don’t ever ever talk about it and pretend it doesn’t exist” route.

          The internet taught me quite a bit before my school even bothered. And my school was the Bible-belt abstinence-only kind of education.

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        Dafuq does trap-neuters-release programs have to do with the GI Joe movies*?

        *If this involves me understanding something from the plot of GI Joe the movie, imma also need a thorough recap.

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    “you ok with that?”

    uh, yeah? they’re just sitting there, no one’s being forced to use them.

    mind your own damn business.

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      “Mind your business” was inscribed on the first official US coin, designed by Benjamin Franklin. Much better motto than “In God we trust”.

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    Now just here me out: What if the girls’ bathroom is full up on people, or broken down for some reason. Wouldn’t it be nice if a girl had to go into the boys’ bathroom in an emergency, that they would have access to those things.

    Boys don’t have special requirements to use the bathroom. I can go anywhere just about. I can take leak on the side of the road with only a car door for privacy in ten seconds. Boom, I’m done.

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      Cause we dont need to debate them.

      Cause they should just be

      And any stupid dumb cunt trying to turn it into a issue to drive wedges and to try and make a group of people the “other” just need to be slapped in the mouth with a 20lbs sledge.

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        And any stupid dumb cunt trying to turn it into a issue to drive wedges and to try and make a group of people the “other” just need to be slapped in the mouth with a 20lbs sledge.

        You’d have to start with breaking into foxnews and fuck them all up. Just sue their asses for misinformation until they start talking about the minimum wage and single-payer healthcare.

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    I really don’t have anything to say here that hasn’t been said already.

    I’m just genuinely disappointed and tired of this nonsense. The statement isn’t accurate and even if it was, that’s a complete non-issue.

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        I agree a bit but at the same time these beliefs and misstatements have to be confronted at some point.

        Thankfully some people have much more patience than I do. I’ll just throw my support behind them.

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      I was under the impression that the statement was accurate, what is incorrect? Just the word “forced?”

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        “The products must be available to all menstruating students in restrooms regularly used by students in grades 4 to 12 according to a plan developed by the school district”

        That’s all the law specified. It didn’t state any the about “boys rooms” or “girls rooms”. If a school determined that a “boys room” will not be regularly used by menstruating students, they didn’t seem to need to stock them.

        The law was neutral and didn’t seem to even be thinking of trans one way or another.

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        Basically yeah. He’s not a dictator nor did he even do any strongarming as governor.

        The bill passed through the state house of representatives with some Republican support even.