196 @lemmy.blahaj.zone Communist Capi ☭ 🇵🇸 🏳️‍🌈 @midwest.social 5mo ago

Spotting AI images Help

I've posted 2 images over the past month that turned out to be AI and I'm getting angry at myself for not crabbing them. Does anyone have a good resource or way of determining AI generated images?

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Most of the time, it helps to zoom in and see if things are in a "wrong" place or "melt" into each other, or something that should be symmetric isn't.

Finding letters and words helps, too. They're often nonsense words or unclear letters.

E.g. https://lemmy.world/post/10202384?scrollToComments=true if that's one you were referring to, you can see symmetry problems in the support beams, floors. Letters and writing is wrong. Back of truck has stuff "melding".
- This might work for now, but there's likely gonna be no way to tell someday soon. What do we do for the long term?
  
  Yeah, long term it will be near impossible to tell by inspecting the image.
  
  We will end up with a system of identifying and trusting the image creator to be truthful, and tracking which/if modifications have been done to the picture.
  
  We have cryptography tools that can be used for most of that, but how it will work as a system for all the weird problems people have (like dying, grifting, stealing, selling access, lying, infringing) is not something we can just throw some tech on and assume it solved.
Im not an "expert" but realistically no, there is no sure way. If you figure something out you will probably get rich.

Just as with AI text generators you can sometimes spot it with experience and if you know what you are looking for. But the general consensus afaik is that we are fucked as soon as it gets to the point where you can make deepfakes that would hold up in court.

The only thing we can hope for is cryptographic signing of all media so authorship can be verified but that doesnt solve your problem really.
- I don't realistically view deepfakes in court as a real issue. Video and photographic evidence on its own is hearsay. You need to summon the person who made it as a witness to testify.
I saw one of those posts before you removed it, and I'm still not convinced it was AI. I had a comment on one of my posts accusing me of posting AI when it wasn't AI at all.

I agree with the no AI rule, but some people here are just being busybodies.

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