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    In case anyone is wondering, there isn’t actually a line like that in the movie. Apparently it does perpetuate the myth that he was short, but there’s never an explicit spoken reference to his height

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    He was actually taller than average for the time, it must have been a garbage movie if they got that wrong.

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      British propaganda is best propaganda have you seen how real Nelson is in Trafalgar!

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        Unfortunately, that is true. The only facts the movie gets right, are the dates it quotes. I understand artistic leeway, but then at least make it entertaining, but the movie fails at that as well. The movie is incoherent, maddeningly inaccurate historically and, even though I really like Joaquin Phoenix as an actor, an absolutely terrible portrayal of the person Napoleon was. Phoenix portrays him as if he was mocking the character, making him into some autistic wizzkid who is socially incredibly awkward.

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      Wasn’t it because that he recruit even taller folks to be his guards. So that caused people to assume that he was short.

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      The way people use the word, I feel like it’s not crazy to have woke as a synonym for “something I hate” coming from someone using it as a derogatory term

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          Woke is anyone that’s trying to be sensitive towards, or at least aware of, the feelings and attitudes of any group I don’t immediately identify and sympathize with.

          Damnit, I’m using ironically, aren’t I?

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        That is exactly what it means, another empty rghtwing catchall term like PC and sjw, and it says a lot about you that you are using the term at all (and nothing at all about the people you are using it derogatorily against).

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      I am woke and I do tease my gf for her height. Mostly because it’s fun when a tall skinny lady and her short fat partner both call each other tiny.

      But yeah this guy just thinks woke is when things he doesn’t like. As though body positivity including for short men doesn’t fall under the progressive scale of things.

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        As though body positivity including for short men doesn’t fall under the progressive scale of things.

        Tbh though, it kinda doesn’t. Progressives have deemed it perfectly acceptible to disparrage others based on physical characteristics if the “victim” is male, typically “short” and “small penis” but also including but not limited to “fat,” “bald,” etc. Think I’m wrong? Let’s see how long it takes before one of them uses that tactic on me for saying:

        I have an AR15 gun rack in my Ford F-250.

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          It’s particularly bad in the UK at the moment. The most popular insult for the current PM is to call him short or make fun of his height. And him being conservative means it’s mostly otherwise progressive and left leaning commentators are doing it.

          I don’t like the guy, and I would like to see him attacked more based on a whole host of other issues. But mocking him for being 5’6" is just kinda low

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            Kinda low eh? Interesting word choice haha.

            Sorry I couldn’t resist, the set up was just too perfect, but I’m also 5’6" so I can make that joke (and also the context being “wordplay” not body shaming).

            Jokes aside though, totally agree, if we’re gonna be calling out body shaming it has to be consistent.

            Frankly I don’t think it’s effective anyway unless your goal is to hurt the feelings of the guy and anyone else who reads your comment with body issues like a small dong or short legs, it isn’t like anyone says “well I was gonna vote for this guy because I agree with him BUT he has to use a step stool to change the overhead lightbulb so maaaaaybe I’ll vote for the guy I completely disagree with instead.”

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          You must use a tiny caliber (not even big enough to hunt deer with) because you have such a huge penis. I know exactly what the extra towing capacity is useful for. wink

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            Alright that is a pretty funny mental image though.

            “Do you know why I pulled you over?”

            “Speeding?”

            “No sir, Indecent Exposure. You have to put a tarp over that thing!”

            “The Gun?”

            “No sir.”

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    Even though this is “totally true and real”, people who cheer in movies are the absolute bottom of the barrel of IQ

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      It’s also cultural. Some cultures see going to a movie as a community event and so they react to it like a concert. You see similar things even outside of that in cult films. Anyone who wants to sit down and quietly watch rocky horror for example is astonishingly strange

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      Even though I’d probably also be pretty annoyed if I ever heard someone cheering in a movie, people who think IQ is some real-life INT stat are not as clever as they think they are

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        Especially when they conflate laughing at a dumb joke with cheering

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    “People make fun short people and will never be seen as a leader.”

    Meanwhile, Joseph Stalin is 5’5" and earned him fame and infamy and still worshipped by idiots to this day. I have seen in Reddit reasoned as to why De Santis puts on high heels is because people are shallow and don’t take kindly to short folks. Well, i think it’s not true and so long you have what i call “force of personality”, the short height will be offset. I don’t mean to make Stalin the shining model of humanity, but I’m sure he charmed and manipulated his way to the top regardless of his stature.

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      Stalin was about average height for the time he grew up in. Especially as a prole.

      When people discuss this topic, everyone always seems to forget the sudden rush of nutritious additives and overall larger yields that humanity was able to incorporate into its diet starting around the atomic age.

      There was a massive growth spike because of this. People who were taller than 170-175cm were very rare prior.

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      It’s funny when short people try to hide it, like DeSantis. It isn’t funny that he’s short. It’s funny that he (and his constituents probably) are so obsessed with not being short that he has those stupid looking heals. As far as I’m aware, Stalin wasn’t worried about his height. Also, I think Napoleon I was (or at least our common meme of him is).

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    I really doubt that Ridley Scott would stoop this low, but I wanted to say that a lot of people are dumb as fuck and will laugh and cheer at anything if the movie tells them to laugh and cheer because a lot of people are like cattle.